Hi. Le mar. 4 févr. 2020 à 15:08, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > I’d honestly expect that several components here are prime candidates for a > more student-heavy audience,
So a related thought to clarify is whether they are welcome here, in practice. Indeed, through last year's GSoC experience, we could assert that goodwill and openness was not enough to reach the target. > particularly the more academic-aligned > components like the math ones in particular. Not sure that they are better candidates than any other "Commons" project. Last year, a lot of time (in retrospect, far, far, too much) was devoted to "chatting" about the tools (IDE, git), and to try and enforce good programming practice (coding style, design, unit testing). [I mean: things that are common to all projects.] Whereas actual code production has not matched expectation. > The components are also low > level enough to not require experience in any specific frameworks which is > nice. I thought that too; however, as mentioned above, not sufficient. Or more precisely we need ways to assert that mentors don't spend their time rewriting tutorials about setting up one's environment. > I think the difficult part is simply curating enough starter tasks > for one or more applicants to complete in order to choose an intern. Indeed. And it was my impression (perhaps wrong), that such "starter" tasks are in fact easier to find within the non math-related components. Hence the suggestion that internship must be supported by "Commons" as a whole. Regards, Gilles > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 05:47 Gilles Sadowski <gillese...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello. > > > > Is "Commons" willing to set up itself for welcoming new > > people who, in order to contribute to the projects, might > > need more support than the usual asynchronous review > > of patches? > > > > The ASF participates in GSoC[1] and Outreachy[2] and > > some Apache projects seem well prepared for dealing with > > the mentoring requirements and application selection process. > > > > Last year, we[3] participated in GSoC, with mitigated results. > > Maybe it was partly due to the lack of experience with these > > programs, especially on how to gauge the candidates (wrt > > to the expected benefit for the project). > > > > Some people start to ask questions about their eventual > > application.[4][5] > > Is "Commons" too complicated for the target audience of > > those initiatives? > > > > Regards, > > Gilles > > > > [1] https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ > > [2] https://www.outreachy.org/ > > [3] Rob Tompkins, Eric Barnhill, Alex Herbert, and I. > > [4] https://markmail.org/message/n5prdwkaukw5ji37 > > [5] > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NUMBERS-70?focusedCommentId=17028479&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-17028479 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
