On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 5:02 AM Christofer Dutz
<christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would opt for setting up Jenkins to auto deploy snapshots to the Apache 
> repo. Done that for quite a lot of projects, so happy to help out.

Please help and direct us! :-)
I once tried it but got in stuck before:
- https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SCXML-236
- https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-10366

>
> Cutting a release would be required for us to use it in our drivers (or we 
> can't Release them). I will definitely not use an "unofficial release" in an 
> Apache project. So a formal one would be required. But I'm happy to help get 
> it there. However I would need to know what's still missing.

Me, too!

@Ate, could you chime in here to give insights on the current status
and what we can do together to be able to cut a release (soon)?

Cheers,

Woonsan

>
> Chris
>
>
>
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> ________________________________
> From: Woonsan Ko <woon...@apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 9:09:53 AM
> To: Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [SCXML] Using SCXML + Daffodil in order to fully specify 
> (industrial) protocols?
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:21 AM Christofer Dutz
> <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > So I just finished a first operational scxml based state machine, that 
> > connects to a remote host and exchanges messages described by dfdl by 
> > serializing xml templates which I define inside my CustomAction elements of 
> > my scxml document.
> >
> > And the coolest thing is, that the remote Siemens PLC answered correctly :-)
> >
> > Still needs a lot of work. Especially we would need at least working 
> > snapshots of commons-scxml (the ones on repo.apachr.org are hugely out of 
> > sync) ... You need help with that? Had to tweak some minor things to build 
> > locally, but should be easy to fix.
>
> If it helps, we (Ate and I) have deployed M1 tag to our maven repo and
> used it for years already in our products:
> - http://maven.onehippo.com/maven2/org/apache/commons/commons-scxml2/2.0-M1/
>
> If we can deploy it or a snapshot to an ASF repo, it will help the
> community. Should we decide to cut a release or just deploy to a
> snapshot repo?
>
> >
> > Would be cool, if someone could review what I'm doing (haven't committed it 
> > yet as it would break the build due to outdated snapshots) ... Don't wanna 
> > walk into the wrong direction and if we work together, I bet this could be 
> > for the benefit of Plc4x and commons-scxml :-)
>
> Cool. Give us a link.
> From my experiences, it seems better not to depend on too many
> expressions or scripts. Keeping it to the most normal standard
> elements, with some custom actions to be used still in a declarative
> way, seems simpler and more maintainable to me.
>
> Regards,
>
> Woonsan
>
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
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> > ________________________________
> > From: Woonsan Ko <woon...@apache.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 4:49:16 PM
> > To: Commons Developers List
> > Subject: Re: [SCXML] Using SCXML + Daffodil in order to fully specify 
> > (industrial) protocols?
> >
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 8:26 AM Christofer Dutz
> > <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I am a member of the Apache PLC4X podling. There we are implementing 
> > > drivers for communicating with industrial hardware.
> > > Now we had started with manually implemented Java drivers, but it has 
> > > always been our goal to ship drivers in multiple languages.
> > >
> > > As we are currently starting work on the C++ versions, it was time to 
> > > work on some way to universally define these protocols
> > > and have the drivers in each supported language generated.
> > >
> > > As a first step I wrote DFDL schemas and tests using Apache Daffodil and 
> > > this worked perfectly for defining the format of the
> > > messages being exchanged. Now I still had to model the protocol itself: 
> > > Which message with what content is sent at which time?
> > > How does the information provided by users get in  requests and out of 
> > > responses?
> > > So I was looking for some way to specify a State machine in XML … I 
> > > stumbled over SCXML
> > > And can you imagine my surprise when I noticed Apache has something for 
> > > this in its toolbox?
> > >
> > > Right now I’m working on writing such a SCXML schema mixing together 
> > > SCXML + DFDL + Custom extensions to achieve the
> > > goal of fully specifying these protocols. So far it’s looking good, but I 
> > > would like to ask, if someone here (ideally with SCXML experience)
> > > would be interested in joining us and working on this.
> >
> > Sounds cool! I'm not familiar with DFDL, but I'd like to help with
> > some of my experiences with SCXML and our current Commons SCXML
> > implementations.
> >
> > >
> > > I know that the activity on the SCXML project seems to have been … well 
> > > minimal. But still I think it’s a good option.
> > >
> > > Any opinions, suggestions, things I should consider?
> >
> > One issue with the SCXML subproject is that it has been refactored a
> > lot since v2, but it has never been released for years. So, people
> > seem to feel hard to try it.
> > Another is that Ate and I have used it mostly for a specific use
> > case--document publication workflow in CMS--with M1 [1]; it kind of
> > lacks of diversity. In that sense, new faces from diverse backgrounds
> > will be more than welcome and more beneficial to the community.
> >
> > Perhaps you can test some PoC or its scenarios in conceptual level
> > with M1 tag to see if everything is okay.
> >
> > Another thing is that we should consider releasing it often (again
> > like 0.x's). Perhaps just because we bumped the version to 2.0.0
> > thanks to the expected whole refactoring, we might just have been
> > hesitant to cut a release of v2.x.x while we're not ready yet to
> > fulfill all the requirements of SCXML specification.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Woonsan
> >
> > [1] http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-scxml/roadmap.html
> >
> > >
> > > Chris
> >
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