Le jeu. 17 janv. 2019 à 16:17, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> Actually I don't get what need to be tested :(
> Can you please provide "textual description" of what need to be tested?

Pasted from below:
> > > > > We could also make some definite progress with an actual code
> > > > > example that calls the incriminated methods, compiled against the
> > > > > current version of the library and then run against the current RC,
> > > > > and see whether it crashes.

> Current version works as expected with Java8 application, no issues

Then: Why a new major version?
It looks like sweeping dust under the carpet. ;-)

If nobody wants to write a test, then we could just release the current
RC (with a mention that Clirr signals errors that we chose to ignore),
and if someone complains later on (if indeed BC would have been broken),
release a bugfix version.

Regards,
Gilles

> All current tests are green
>
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 at 19:14, Gilles Sadowski <gillese...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello.
> >
> > Le jeu. 17 janv. 2019 à 04:24, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> > >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > Shall I cancel this VOTE and change project coordinates to be
> > > commons-collections5 ?
> >
> > I must have missed part of the thread...  IMO, a major release is not
> > the answer to a possible false positive.
> > Did you make the actual test (mentioned somewhere below)?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Gilles
> >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 01:04, Amey Jadiye <ameyjad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, 4 Jan 2019, 5:25 pm Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > hi.
> > > > >
> > > > Hi Gilles,
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 22:04:24 +0530, Amey Jadiye wrote:
> > > > > > Hello Maxim / All
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I put little more efforts to find out the possible cause of the
> > > > > > error.
> > > > > > In the clirr code, I found the reason for this error and same is
> > > > > > documented
> > > > > > in clirr documentation [1].
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A method declaration has been added to the specified interface.
> > This
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > always reported as a binary-compatibility error, but in practice,
> > the
> > > > > > changed class might be used successfully with code compiled against
> > > > > > the old
> > > > > > interface depending upon usage patterns.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Old code which invokes methods upon code compiled against the new
> > > > > > (expanded) interface will continue to work without issues. And old
> > > > > > code
> > > > > > which implements the old version of the interface will also
> > continue
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > work correctly as long as no code attempts to invoke any of the
> > > > > > newly-added
> > > > > > methods against that instance. But the code which (validly) invokes
> > > > > > one of
> > > > > > the new methods in the interface against an object which implements
> > > > > > only
> > > > > > the old version of the interface will cause an AbstractMethodError
> > to
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > thrown at the time the method invocation is attempted.
> > > > >
> > > > > IIUC, new code that calls the new methods on [Collections] classes
> > > > > will crash.  Does not look good.
> > > > > On the other hand, Maxim wrote earlier that a method reported by
> > > > > Clirr as "new" (cf. below) was in fact present since Java 6...
> > > > >
> > > > > Are we then sure that it's a Clirr bug?
> > > > > If so, why did you not vote "+1" (on the condition that the false
> > > > > positive is mentioned in the release notes)?
> > > > >
> > > > > We could also make some definite progress with an actual code
> > > > > example that calls the incriminated methods, compiled against the
> > > > > current version of the library and then run against the current RC,
> > > > > and see whether it crashes.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for directions here, I must also check that. Till then I would
> > like
> > > > to change my vote to -1 (Non Binding) for this release.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Alternatively, we could instate "revapi" in the POM (and disable
> > > > > Clirr); and if the report is clean, trust that (though "revapi" is
> > > > > still beta).
> > > > >
> > > > > Opinions?
> > > > >
> > > > > Gilles
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In 4.2 and 4.3 looks like we have upgraded the java version[2]
> > where
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > example for Map interface might have added a few more methods
> > causing
> > > > > > these
> > > > > > errors.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For this release, I am voting 0 (Non-Binding) as there is unharmed
> > > > > > mess
> > > > > > around the clirr.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > rest of the things are OK with this release, I would encourage to
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > revapi replacing clirr.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1]  http://clirr.sourceforge.net/clirr-core/exegesis.html
> > > > > > [2]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/commit/482762a13f739631f94d03642b0a55a9b7214c44
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Amey
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 11:53 AM Amey Jadiye <ameyjad...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> I spared little time on finding issue however didn't found it in
> > > > > >> clirr(may
> > > > > >> be hidden somewhere),  today will check if clirr maven plugin have
> > > > > >> any
> > > > > >> issues. also I saw that few other apache commons modules having
> > same
> > > > > >> issue
> > > > > >> and are released.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I also gave try on revapi with commons collection4 4.3RC2.
> > > > > >> revapi:check
> > > > > >> was clean unlike clirr, looks promising to replace clirr.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Regards,
> > > > > >> Amey
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Wed, 2 Jan 2019, 12:31 pm Maxim Solodovnik <
> > solomax...@gmail.com
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hello All,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Just checked clirr report one more time
> > > > > >>> This time I took 1 error and perform investigation:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> "Method 'public java.util.Collection values()' has been added to
> > an
> > > > > >>> interface" org.apache.commons.collections4.BidiMap
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> In fact I don't understand why this error was reported
> > > > > >>> BidiMap extends java.util.Map
> > > > > >>> Map has method "public java.util.Collection values()" in all
> > > > > >>> versions:
> > > > > >>> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/util/Map.html
> > > > > >>> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/util/Map.html
> > > > > >>> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/util/Map.html
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Maybe its clirr issue?
> > > > > >>> Would appreciate any help with this investigation
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 at 16:53, Gilles <
> > gil...@harfang.homelinux.org>
> > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 07:41:40 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> > > > > >>> > > Hello Gilles,
> > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > >>> > > I already did analysis: [1], all errors are caused by
> > previous
> > > > > >>> > > release
> > > > > >>> > > 4.3 doesn't introduce any new errors ...
> > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > >>> > > [1] https://markmail.org/message/l7ftxlvdk4yqxijt
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I had seen the post but it says:
> > > > > >>> > ---
> > > > > >>> > these errors are weird. Above classes has no changes comparing
> > to
> > > > > >>> 4.2
> > > > > >>> > ---
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > But IMHO it was not a conclusion: If the cause of the errors
> > was
> > > > > >>> > identified, it could have been mentioned in the release notes
> > > > > >>> > and/or the [VOTE] email, in order to avoid further questioning.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Is the cause the change of supported JDK?
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Regards,
> > > > > >>> > Gilles
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > >>> > > On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 at 07:26, Rob Tompkins <
> > chtom...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>> > > wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> > >> I’ll give it a look tonight or in the morning.
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> > >> -Rob
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> > >> > On Dec 30, 2018, at 12:25 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
> > > > > >>> > >> <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > > >>> > >> > No votes after 3 days :(
> > > > > >>> > >> > Is there anything wrong with the RC?
> > > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > > >>> > >> >> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 at 05:20, Bruno P. Kinoshita
> > > > > >>> > >> <ki...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >> >>
> > > > > >>> > >> >> FWIW I had a similar experience, and realized I was doing
> > > > > >>> `git
> > > > > >>> > >> fetch --all`, but it didn't bring the tags. `git fetch
> > --tags`
> > > > > >>> did
> > > > > >>> the
> > > > > >>> > >> trick. After that I could `git checkout $tag-name`
> > > > > >>> > >> >>
> > > > > >>> > >> >> Cheers
> > > > > >>> > >> >> Bruno
> > > > > >>> > >> >>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>
> > > > > >>> > >> >> ________________________________
> > > > > >>> > >> >> From: Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org>
> > > > > >>> > >> >> To: dev@commons.apache.org
> > > > > >>> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2018 9:26 AM
> > > > > >>> > >> >> Subject: Re: [VOTE][RC2] Commons collections 4.3
> > > > > >>> > >> >>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 21:21:34 +0100, Gilles wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >> >>> Hi.
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:41:59 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik
> > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> This is a [VOTE] for releasing
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> Apache Commons collections 4.3
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> Tag name:
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>    collections-4.3-RC2 (signature can be checked from
> > git
> > > > > >>> using
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> 'git
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> tag -v')
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>> $ git tag -v collections-4.3-RC2
> > > > > >>> > >> >>> error: tag 'collections-4.3-RC2' not found.
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>> Although I see it in the link below...
> > > > > >>> > >> >>> What is going on?
> > > > > >>> > >> >>
> > > > > >>> > >> >> Issue vanished with a fresh "clone".
> > > > > >>> > >> >> [Sorry for the noise.]
> > > > > >>> > >> >>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> RC1 was cancelled due to some release steps were not
> > done
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> Tag URL:
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=commons-collections.git;a=commit;h=77e37dbf238d26351edb29e95391e3df75095d01
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> Commit ID the tag points at:
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>    77e37dbf238d26351edb29e95391e3df75095d01
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> Site:
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/collections/4.3-RC2/site/index.html
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>> The Clirr report is still a problem:
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/collections/4.3-RC2/site/clirr-report.html
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>> [The same errors are reported on my machine, so it's
> > > > > >>> > >> >>> not a cache issue...]
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>> Regards,
> > > > > >>> > >> >>> Gilles
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> Distribution files (committed at revision 31689):
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/collections/
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> Distribution files hashes (SHA256):
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>  commons-collections4-4.3-bin.tar.gz
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> 214c12fae27403f1a16ca6c108b5a8682be1a885a0dbbfc8eb30941303e1fe94
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>  commons-collections4-4.3-bin.zip
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> 75b51a98fea6fca3746a3f70c6a0be24c99849e4976c4649214eaa5a009d0aeb
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>  commons-collections4-4.3-src.tar.gz
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> 399f403feca86dbba7c4162eb90174db45979a2f7db2b3e0ba48240dc43ab434
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>  commons-collections4-4.3-src.zip
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> 1c637e260b5b9e372d196593c7617ad3adedb6da3ac9196d086f9fc24401f5c3
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> KEYS file to check signatures:
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>   https://www.apache.org/dist/commons/KEYS
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> Maven artifacts:
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecommons-1405/
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> Please select one of the following options:
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>  [ ] +1 Release it.
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>  [ ] +0 Go ahead; I don't care.
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>  [ ] -0 There are a few minor glitches: ...
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>  [ ] -1 No, do not release it because ...
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> This vote will be open for at least 72 hours, i.e.
> > until
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> 2018-12-29T14:00:00Z
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>> (this is UTC time).
> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>
> > > > >
> > > > >
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