> On Sep 20, 2018, at 3:10 AM, Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Reverting this change was discussed here [1]. It was a result of this
> commit [2] breaking multiple component builds. As Stefan points out the
> initial change does not make sense, since the componentId is always just
> the name without "commons-" (e.g. math4). But the folders for all the
> websites have the commons prefix (e.g. commons-math).
> 
> I just restored the old (working) behavior. I'm fine with making things
> easier/more straight forward. But let's make sure that all the other
> components still work.

I’m relatively indifferent to how we accomplish this. For the sake of 
discussion let our project.artifactId=commons-something where N represents the 
major version of the release with N being the empty string for a major version 
equal to 1. We still are stuck with half of our projects in one state for 
building with componentid=something and the other half with 
componentid=somethingN. Furthermore we need a properties representing both 
“something” as well as “somethingN” given that we have our dist urls and site 
urls not containing the major release version. 

Do you propose something other than:

<commons.componentid>something</commons.componentid>
<commons.packageId>somethingN</commons.pachageId>

and change [parent] back to

<commons.scmPubUrl>

https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/commons/content/proper/${commons.componentid}
</commons.scmPubUrl>
????

If so, what is it? Let’s pick it and move forward.

Cheers,
-Rob

[Ref]
June conversation on the matter as well.
https://markmail.org/message/7xbk3zm6pornsrto

> 
> Regards,
> Benedikt
> 
> [1]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/304129bf7d25a2118ee3f324214c04e1e8f0846e7ee43a57b100a26e@%3Cdev.commons.apache.org%3E
> [2]
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/commons-parent/trunk/pom.xml?r1=1831599&r2=1832339
> 
> Am Mi., 19. Sep. 2018 um 17:25 Uhr schrieb Gary Gregory <
> garydgreg...@gmail.com>:
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 8:30 AM Rob Tompkins <chtom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think the plan moving forward here is that we should do the following:
>>> 
>>> <commons.componentid>math</commons.componentid>
>>> <commons.packageId>math4</commons.pachageId>
>>> 
>>> And change [parent] back to
>>> 
>>> <commons.scmPubUrl>
>>> 
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/commons/content/proper/${commons.componentid}
>>> </commons.scmPubUrl>
>>> 
>>> Yeah?
>>> 
>> 
>> LGTM.
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> -Rob
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 19, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Rob Tompkins <chtom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 19, 2018, at 9:28 AM, Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 06:45:13 -0600, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>>>>> The difference is to account for artifact ids that contain a version
>>> like
>>>>>> commons-lang3. The component id is then just commons-lang. You must
>> not
>>>>>> have versions in names for certain names like in the download page.
>>> This
>>>>>> change will probably break builds like pool, dbcp, lang, and so on.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hmm, this completes the confusion!
>>>>> 
>>>>> If "artifactId" is e.g. commons-lang3 then I don't understand how
>>>>> the reverted line works because (AFAICT) the SVN URL is
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/commons/content/proper/commons-lang/
>>>>> 
>>>>> The [Math] POM contains these lines:
>>>>> ---CUT---
>>>>>  <!-- Do not change: "math" is the name of the component even if the
>>>>>       name of the base package evolves with major release numbers
>>>>>       (see "commons.osgi.symbolicName", below). -->
>>>>>  <commons.componentid>math4</commons.componentid>
>>>>> ---CUT---
>>>>> Correct or not?
>>>> 
>>>> Half of the components are correct, half aren’t.
>>>> 
>>>> What’s the consensus here? My thought was that componentId=math is
>>> actually correct based on the documentation, and we need and
>>> “artifactIdSuffix” or something analogous.
>>>> 
>>>> -Rob
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It also uses a fix string:
>>>>> ---CUT---
>>>>> <commons.scmPubUrl>
>>> 
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/commons/content/proper/commons-math
>>> </commons.scmPubUrl>
>>>>> ---CUT---
>>>>> whereas a variable (as in the commit below) would seem more portable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why isn't "<commons.scmPubUrl>" defined in CP only (using the
>>> appropriate
>>>>> variable overridden in each component)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why having
>>>>> ---CUT---
>>>>> <commons.site.path>math</commons.site.path>
>>>>> ---CUT---
>>>>> that doesn't look at all like a "path"?
>>>>> We could define a quite more explicit "<commons.component.name>"
>>>>> that could serve for composing a path, as well as for any
>>>>> other purpose where the component is meant, independently
>>>>> of artefact identifier syntax or major version.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Gilles
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 04:07 Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are we sure that the fix/revert below to work as intended for
>>>>>>> *all* components?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Common usage should be enforced (e.g. to allow anyone to help
>>>>>>> releasing any component), and ancient inconsistencies fixed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> With a concrete example of a component that has had major
>>>>>>> version changes (and top-level package change accordingly),
>>>>>>> what is
>>>>>>> commons.componentid
>>>>>>> and what is
>>>>>>> project.artefactId
>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Gilles
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 08:06:17 -0000, brit...@apache.org wrote:
>>>>>>>> Author: britter
>>>>>>>> Date: Wed Sep 19 08:06:17 2018
>>>>>>>> New Revision: 1841296
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1841296&view=rev
>>>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>>>> COMMONSSITE-124: Revert change in commons.scmPubUrl in Parent 47
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>>>>   commons/proper/commons-parent/trunk/pom.xml
>>>>>>>>   commons/proper/commons-parent/trunk/src/changes/changes.xml
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Modified: commons/proper/commons-parent/trunk/pom.xml
>>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>> 
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/commons-parent/trunk/pom.xml?rev=1841296&r1=1841295&r2=1841296&view=diff
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>> 
>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>>> --- commons/proper/commons-parent/trunk/pom.xml (original)
>>>>>>>> +++ commons/proper/commons-parent/trunk/pom.xml Wed Sep 19 08:06:17
>>>>>>>> 2018
>>>>>>>> @@ -1940,7 +1940,7 @@
>>>>>>>>    <!-- value modules can override it -->
>>>>>>>>    <commons.site.path>${commons.componentid}</commons.site.path>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <commons.scmPubUrl>
>>>>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/commons/content/proper/${commons.componentid}
>>>>>>> </commons.scmPubUrl>
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <commons.scmPubUrl>
>>>>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/commons/content/proper/${project.artifactId}
>>>>>>> </commons.scmPubUrl>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>> 
>> <commons.scmPubCheckoutDirectory>${commons.site.cache}/${commons.site.path}</commons.scmPubCheckoutDirectory>
>>>>>>>>    <commons.scmPubServer>commons.site</commons.scmPubServer>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Modified:
>> commons/proper/commons-parent/trunk/src/changes/changes.xml
>>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>> 
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/commons-parent/trunk/src/changes/changes.xml?rev=1841296&r1=1841295&r2=1841296&view=diff
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>> 
>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>>> --- commons/proper/commons-parent/trunk/src/changes/changes.xml
>>>>>>>> (original)
>>>>>>>> +++ commons/proper/commons-parent/trunk/src/changes/changes.xml Wed
>>>>>>>> Sep 19 08:06:17 2018
>>>>>>>> @@ -61,6 +61,7 @@ The <action> type attribute can be add,u
>>>>>>>>    <body>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>        <release version="48" date="YYYY-MM-DD" description="TBD">
>>>>>>>> +            <action issue="COMMONSSITE-124" type="fix"
>>>>>>>> dev="britter">Revert change in commons.scmPubUrl in Parent
>>>>>>>> 47</action>
>>>>>>>>            <action type="update">Update parent from
>>>>>>>> org.apache:apache 19 to 20.</action>
>>>>>>>>            <action type="update">maven-compiler-plugin 3.7.0 ->
>>>>>>>> 3.8.0</action>
>>>>>>>>            <action type="fix">re-enabled japicmp and introduced
>>>>>>>> japicmp.skip property that
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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