> On Jun 17, 2018, at 12:38 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Ideally, if we can just keep various branches around in releasable states,
> then we can keep old dbcp 2.x.* maintenance releases moving forward. Based
> on my experiences trying to release this module before, though, I think
> that process would need to be streamlined and backported.
> 

That’s what was running through my mind yesterday when I was reading the 
discussion. 

-Rob

>> On 17 June 2018 at 07:58, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 16 June 2018 at 22:41, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hello Mark and all,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for the heads up on the Tomcat plans.
>>> 
>>> Asking DBCP to stay on Java 7 for 4-5 years is insane IMO, and it
>> certainly
>>> is not going to attract anyone to maintain and grow this component (IMO
>>> again.) If that is a set of handcuffs you want to live with, then by all
>>> means ;-)
>>> 
>>> I am sure there is nothing stopping anyone at Apache to keep patches
>> coming
>>> to the DBCP 2.4.x line. I plan on keeping the release train going for
>> many
>>> Commons component, so I am happy to release DBCP at will.
>>> 
>>> You will notice that
>>> https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-dbcp/download_dbcp.cgi
>> presents
>>> no less than tree different versions of DBCP for different antique Java
>>> platforms. We are just going to make that list one deeper.
>> 
>> I think we can now drop support for JDBC 3 and JDBC 4 (Java 6)
>> That leaves only JDBC 4.1 (Java 7.0) as a current release.
>> 
>> Is that really too much to continue to support?
>> 
>>> Again, patches are more than welcome. And do feel free to call for a RC
>> or
>>> RM it yourself ;-)
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 2:34 PM Mark Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 16/06/18 21:14, Matt Sicker wrote:
>>>>>> On 16 June 2018 at 14:11, Mark Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What is driving the desire to move to Java 8?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> What's driving the desire to maintain support for a seven year old
>>>> release
>>>>> of Java which is not supported without paying large sums of money to
>>>>> Oracle?
>>>> 
>>>> As I said, Tomcat 8 which has at least another 4 to 5 years of life in
>>>> it, depends on DBCP 2 and has a specification mandated requirement to
>>>> maintain compatibility with Java 7.
>>>> 
>>>> There are ways the Tomcat community could work around this. Because Java
>>>> 7 is EOL does not - on its own - strike me as a sufficiently good reason
>>>> to create hassle for another ASF community.
>>>> 
>>>> If there are new features in Java 8 we want to take advantage of or an
>>>> update to the JDBC API that we want to support then fair enough. Those
>>>> are good reasons but I'd like to see them explicitly articulated.
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
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