Thanks for the tip Gary. Will give it a try. On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Briefly: If you are considering code generation, then you can do away with > using reflection. > > G > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Arun Mohan <strider90a...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I was exploring ways on how to substitute the typing of method names in > the > > api with something thats more clean and maintainable. > > Using annotations, how can I provide clients the ability to specify which > > method needs to be specified? Any ideas? Sort of stuck on this now. > > > > Right now I am thinking of something similar to HibernateJpa Metamodel > > generator, where a new class will be generated via byte code manipulation > > which will contain static string variables corresponding to all > annotated > > method names. Then the client can refer to the String variables in the > > generated class instead of typing the method names. > > > > Also, I don't have much experience playing with ASM or java assist. As it > > currently stands, is this project a good fit for further exploration in > the > > Sandbox? I would like to see if there are interested folks with > experience > > in byte code manipulation who can contribute to this. > > > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Arun Mohan <strider90a...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I was checking out how the library would plug into Spring and other > > > frameworks. I created a sample Spring project with a couple of auto > wired > > > service classes. To fetch and combine data from multiple service > classes > > in > > > parallel, the Spring injected service dependencies are passed to the > > > library. > > > > > > Since the library is framework agnostic, it deals with the spring > > injected > > > dependency as a normal object. > > > > > > You can see it here : https://github.com/striderarun/spring-app- > > > parallel-execution/blob/master/src/main/java/com/ > dashboard/service/impl/ > > > DashboardServiceImpl.java > > > > > > I think the idea here is that clients can parallelize method calls > > > irrespective of whether they are part of Spring beans or implemented as > > > part of any other framework. Clients don't have to modify or wrap their > > > methods into an ExecutorService, Runnable or any other low level apis > to > > do > > > so. Methods can be submitted as-is to the library. > > > > > > The library can serve as a higher level abstraction that completely > hides > > > concurrency apis from the client. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> There's also some interesting execution APIs available in the Scala > > >> standard library. Those are built on top of ForkJoinPool and such > > >> nowadays, > > >> but the idea is there for a nicer API on top of ExecutorService and > > other > > >> low level details. > > >> > > >> In the interests of concurrency, there are other thread-like models > that > > >> can be explored. For example: http://docs.paralleluniverse.co/quasar/ > > >> > > >> On 12 June 2017 at 21:22, Bruno P. Kinoshita < > > >> brunodepau...@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Interesting idea. And great discussion. Can't really say I'd have a > > use > > >> > case for that right now, so abstaining from the discussion around > the > > >> > implementation. > > >> > > > >> > I believe if we decide to explore this idea in Commons, we will > > probably > > >> > move it to sandbox? Even if we do not move that to Commons or to > > >> sandbox, I > > >> > intend to find some time in the next days to try Apache Commons > > Javaflow > > >> > with this library. > > >> > > > >> > Jenkins implemented pipelines + continuations with code that when > > >> started > > >> > it looked a lot like Javaflow. The execution in parallel is taken > care > > >> in > > >> > some internal modules in Jenkins, but I would like to see how if > > simpler > > >> > implementation like this one would work. > > >> > > > >> > Ideally, this utility would execute in parallel, say, 20 tasks each > > >> taking > > >> > 5 minutes (haven't looked if it supports fork/join). Then I would be > > >> able > > >> > to have checkpoints during the execution and if the whole workflow > > >> fails, I > > >> > would be able to restart it from the last checkpoint. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > I use Java7+ concurrent classes when I need to execute tasks in > > parallel > > >> > (though I'm adding a flag to Paul King's message in this thread to > > give > > >> > GPars a try too!), but I am unaware of any way to have > persistentable > > >> (?) > > >> > continuation workflows as in Jenkins, but with simple Java code. > > >> > > > >> > Cheers > > >> > Bruno > > >> > > > >> > ________________________________ > > >> > From: Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> > > >> > To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org> > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, 13 June 2017 2:08 PM > > >> > Subject: Re: Commons sub project for parallel method execution > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > So wouldn't something like ASM or Javassist or one of the zillion > > >> other > > >> > > bytecode libraries be a better alternative to using reflection for > > >> > > performance? Also, using the Java 7 reflections API improvements > > helps > > >> > > speed things up quite a bit. > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > IMO, unless you are doing scripting, reflection should be a used as > a > > >> > workaround, but that's just me. For example, like we do in Commons > > IO's > > >> > Java7Support class. > > >> > > > >> > But I digress ;-) > > >> > > > >> > This is clearly an interesting topic. My concern is that there is a > > LOT > > >> of > > >> > code out there that does stuff like this at the low and high level > > from > > >> the > > >> > JRE's fork/join to Apache Spark and so on as I've stated. > > >> > > > >> > IMO something new would have to be both unique and since this is > > >> Commons, > > >> > potentially pluggable into other frameworks. > > >> > > > >> > Gary > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On 12 June 2017 at 20:37, Paul King <paul.king.as...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > My goto library for such tasks would be GPars. It has both Java > > and > > >> > > > Groovy support for most things (actors/dataflow) but less so for > > >> > > > asynchronous task execution. It's one of the things that would > be > > >> good > > >> > > > to explore in light of Java 8. Groovy is now Apache, GPars not > at > > >> this > > >> > > > stage. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > So with adding two jars (GPars + Groovy), you can use Groovy > like > > >> this: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > @Grab('org.codehaus.gpars:gpars:1.2.1') > > >> > > > import com.arun.student.StudentService > > >> > > > import groovyx.gpars.GParsExecutorsPool > > >> > > > > > >> > > > long startTime = System.nanoTime() > > >> > > > def service = new StudentService() > > >> > > > def bookSeries = ["A Song of Ice and Fire": 7, "Wheel of Time": > > 14, > > >> > > > "Harry Potter": 7] > > >> > > > > > >> > > > def tasks = [ > > >> > > > { println service.findStudent("j...@gmail.com", 11, > > false) > > >> }, > > >> > > > { println service.getStudentMarks(1L) }, > > >> > > > { println service.getStudentsByFirstNames([" > > John","Alice"]) > > >> }, > > >> > > > { println service.getRandomLastName() }, > > >> > > > { println service.findStudentIdByName("Kate", > "Williams") > > >> }, > > >> > > > { service.printMapValues(bookSeries) } > > >> > > > ] > > >> > > > > > >> > > > GParsExecutorsPool.withPool { > > >> > > > tasks.collect{ it.callAsync() }.collect{ it.get() } > > >> > > > // tasks.eachParallel{ it() } // one of numerous alternatives > > >> > > > } > > >> > > > > > >> > > > long executionTime = (System.nanoTime() - startTime) / 1000000 > > >> > > > println "\nTotal elapsed time is $executionTime\n\n" > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Cheers, Paul. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > I'd be interested to see where this leads to. It could end up > > as a > > >> > sort > > >> > > > of > > >> > > > > Commons Parallel library. Besides providing an execution API, > > >> there > > >> > > could > > >> > > > > be plenty of support utilities that tend to be found in all > the > > >> > > > > *Util(s)/*Helper classes in projects like all the ones I > > mentioned > > >> > > > earlier > > >> > > > > (basically all sorts of Hadoop-related projects and other > > >> distributed > > >> > > > > systems here). > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Really, there's so many ways that such a project could head, > I'd > > >> like > > >> > > to > > >> > > > > hear more ideas on what to focus on. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > On 12 June 2017 at 18:19, Gary Gregory < > garydgreg...@gmail.com> > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> The upshot is that there has to be a way to do this with some > > >> custom > > >> > > > code > > >> > > > >> to at least have the ability to 'fast path' the code without > > >> > > reflection. > > >> > > > >> Using lambdas should make this fairly syntactically > > unobtrusive. > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Arun Mohan < > > >> > strider90a...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > Yes, reflection is not very performant but I don't think I > > have > > >> > any > > >> > > > other > > >> > > > >> > choice since the library has to inspect the object supplied > > by > > >> the > > >> > > > client > > >> > > > >> > at runtime to pick out the methods to be invoked using > > >> > > > CompletableFuture. > > >> > > > >> > But the performance penalty paid for using reflection will > be > > >> more > > >> > > > than > > >> > > > >> > offset by the savings of parallel method execution, more so > > as > > >> the > > >> > > no > > >> > > > of > > >> > > > >> > methods executed in parallel increases. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Gary Gregory < > > >> > > garydgreg...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On a lower-level, if you want to use this for lower-level > > >> > services > > >> > > > >> (where > > >> > > > >> > > there is no network latency for example), you will need > to > > >> avoid > > >> > > > using > > >> > > > >> > > reflection to get the best performance. > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > Gary > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Arun Mohan < > > >> > > > strider90a...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Hi Gary, > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Thanks for your response. You have some valid and > > >> interesting > > >> > > > points > > >> > > > >> > :-) > > >> > > > >> > > > Of course you are right that Spark is much more mature. > > >> Thanks > > >> > > for > > >> > > > >> your > > >> > > > >> > > > insight. > > >> > > > >> > > > It will be interesting indeed to find out if the core > > >> > > > parallelization > > >> > > > >> > > > engine of Spark can be isolated like you suggest. > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > I started working on this project because I felt that > > there > > >> > was > > >> > > no > > >> > > > >> good > > >> > > > >> > > > library for parallelizing method calls which can be > > >> plugged in > > >> > > > easily > > >> > > > >> > > into > > >> > > > >> > > > an existing java project. Ultimately, if such a > solution > > >> can > > >> > be > > >> > > > >> > > > incorporated in the Apache Commons, it would be a > useful > > >> > > addition > > >> > > > to > > >> > > > >> > the > > >> > > > >> > > > Commons repository. > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Thanks, > > >> > > > >> > > > Arun > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Gary Gregory < > > >> > > > >> garydgreg...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Hi Arun, > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Sure, and that is to be expected, Spark is more > mature > > >> than > > >> > a > > >> > > > four > > >> > > > >> > > class > > >> > > > >> > > > > prototype. What I am trying to get to is that in > order > > >> for > > >> > the > > >> > > > >> > library > > >> > > > >> > > to > > >> > > > >> > > > > be useful, you will end up with more in a first > > release, > > >> and > > >> > > > after > > >> > > > >> a > > >> > > > >> > > > couple > > >> > > > >> > > > > more releases, there will be more and more. Would > Spark > > >> not > > >> > > > have in > > >> > > > >> > its > > >> > > > >> > > > > guts the same kind of code your are proposing here? > By > > >> > > > extension, > > >> > > > >> > will > > >> > > > >> > > > you > > >> > > > >> > > > > not end up with more framework-like (Spark-like) code > > and > > >> > > > solutions > > >> > > > >> > as > > >> > > > >> > > > > found in Spark? I am just playing devil's advocate > here > > >> ;-) > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > What would be interesting would be to find out if > there > > >> is a > > >> > > > core > > >> > > > >> > part > > >> > > > >> > > of > > >> > > > >> > > > > Spark that is separable and ex tractable into a > Commons > > >> > > > component. > > >> > > > >> > > Since > > >> > > > >> > > > > Spark has a proven track record, it is more likely, > > that > > >> > such > > >> > > a > > >> > > > >> > library > > >> > > > >> > > > > would be generally useful than one created from > scratch > > >> that > > >> > > > does > > >> > > > >> not > > >> > > > >> > > > > integrate with anything else. Again, please do not > take > > >> any > > >> > of > > >> > > > this > > >> > > > >> > > > > personally, I am just playing here :-) > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Gary > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Matt Sicker < > > >> > > boa...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > I already see a huge difference here: Spark > requires > > a > > >> > bunch > > >> > > > of > > >> > > > >> > > > > > infrastructure to be set up, while this library is > > >> just a > > >> > > > >> library. > > >> > > > >> > > > > Similar > > >> > > > >> > > > > > to Kafka Streams versus Spark Streaming or Flink or > > >> Storm > > >> > or > > >> > > > >> Samza > > >> > > > >> > or > > >> > > > >> > > > the > > >> > > > >> > > > > > others. > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > On 12 June 2017 at 16:28, Gary Gregory < > > >> > > > garydgreg...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Arun Mohan < > > >> > > > >> > > strider90a...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi All, > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > Good afternoon. > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > I have been working on a java generic parallel > > >> > execution > > >> > > > >> > library > > >> > > > >> > > > > which > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > will > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > allow clients to execute methods in parallel > > >> > > irrespective > > >> > > > of > > >> > > > >> > the > > >> > > > >> > > > > number > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > of > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > method arguments, type of method arguments, > > return > > >> > type > > >> > > of > > >> > > > >> the > > >> > > > >> > > > method > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > etc. > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > Here is the link to the source code: > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > https://github.com/striderarun/parallel- > > >> > > execution-engine > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > The project is in a nascent state and I am the > > only > > >> > > > >> contributor > > >> > > > >> > > so > > >> > > > >> > > > > > far. I > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > am new to the Apache community and I would like > > to > > >> > bring > > >> > > > this > > >> > > > >> > > > project > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > into > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > Apache and improve, expand and build a > developer > > >> > > community > > >> > > > >> > around > > >> > > > >> > > > it. > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > I think this project can be a sub project of > > Apache > > >> > > > Commons > > >> > > > >> > since > > >> > > > >> > > > it > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > provides generic components for parallelizing > any > > >> kind > > >> > > of > > >> > > > >> > > methods. > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > Can somebody please guide me or suggest what > > other > > >> > > > options I > > >> > > > >> > can > > >> > > > >> > > > > > explore > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > ? > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > Hi Arun, > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > Thank you for your proposal. > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > How would this be different from Apache Spark? > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > Thank you, > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > Gary > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks, > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > Arun > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > -- > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > -- > > >> > > > > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> --------- > > >> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > >> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > -- > > >> > > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------- > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > > > > > >
