Hi,

> Am 09.06.2017 um 03:34 schrieb Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>:
> 
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Simon Spero <sesunc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> There is a one other compatibility issue, which can be seen in the attached
>> code:
>> 
>> import java.nio.charset.StandardCharsets;
>> 
>> public class Weasel {
>> 
>>    private static final String US_ASCII = "US-ASCII";
>>    private static final String UTF_8 = "UTF-8";
>>    private static final String STANDARD_US_ASCII =
>> StandardCharsets.US_ASCII.name();
>>    private static final String STANDARD_UTF_8 =
>> StandardCharsets.UTF_8.name
>> ();
>> 
>>    public static void main(String[] args) {
>> 
>>        switch (args[0]) {
>>            case US_ASCII:
>>                System.out.println("USA! USA!");
>>                break;
>>            case UTF_8:
>>                System.out.println("Emoji Lovin' Hippies!");
>>                break;
>>            default:
>>                System.out.println("Weirdo.");
>>        }
>>    }
>> }
>> 
>> 
>> This code compiles.
>> However, if the case labels are changed to STANDARD_US_ASCII and
>> STANDARD_UTF_8, the compilation will fail, because the  case labels are no
>> longer constant expressions.
>> In the actual code, this means that code compiled against an older version
>> of the library would work against the new code (because the old strings had
>> already been inlined), but could not be re-compiled.
>> 
> 
> Thank you for doing this research and POC :-)
> 
> But Ugh! :-( We shot ourselves in the foot here.
> 
> Benedikt, how do you feel about a fix and a new RC?

I can do it, no problem. Will start right away.

Cheers,
Benedikt

> 
> Gary
> 
> 
>> 
>> I don't know why anyone would be doing this...
>> 
>> (CLIRR pre-dates string switches)
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 5:10 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8 June 2017 at 18:09, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 9:57 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 8 June 2017 at 17:19, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 5:38 AM, Simon Spero <sesunc...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [A Note, not a vote :) ]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1. Clirr is generally considered obsolete, as it hadn't been worked
>>> on
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> about ten years.   japicmp is a good replacement, especially for
>>> report
>>>>>>> generation, and is used in other commons projects.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> IIRC, we've started using japicm here and there. Each component can
>>>>> decide.
>>>>>> But yes, Clirr looks pretty dead.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2. Are the "changes" to the values in CharEncoding really
>>> necessary[1]
>>>>> (The
>>>>>>> deprecation surely is). Technically this is a potentially breaking
>>>>> binary
>>>>>>> incompatible change, as constant strings and primitives are inlined
>>> at
>>>>>>> compile time. [2]
>>>>>>> In this particular case, the results of load-time evaluation of the
>>> new
>>>>>>> initialization expressions  are identical to the old constants, so
>>> it's
>>>>>>> behaviourally compatible; however, since this is the case, and
>> since
>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> all deprecated anyway, why not leave the old values in-place?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The changes are not "necessary" that for sure and we do get Clirr
>>>>> warnings:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Value of field ISO_8859_1 is no longer a compile-time constant
>>>>>> Value of field US_ASCII is no longer a compile-time constant
>>>>>> Value of field UTF_16 is no longer a compile-time constant
>>>>>> Value of field UTF_16BE is no longer a compile-time constant
>>>>>> Value of field UTF_16LE is no longer a compile-time constant
>>>>>> Value of field UTF_8 is no longer a compile-time constant
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's source compatible. What is the issue at runtime that could hurt
>>>>> users?
>>>>> 
>>>>> As the OP wrote, constants are inlined by the compiler.
>>>>> So unless all code is recompiled, if it referenced the constant it may
>>>>> have a stale value.
>>>>> That is not binary compatible.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> But in this case the actual values are the same are they not? So what
>> is
>>>> the difference? Would this only be a problem if we changed the string
>>>> values?
>>> 
>>> AFAIK the compiler only inlines compile-time constants.
>>> So going forward, the values won't be inlined.
>>> I assume the behaviour will be unaffected since the runtime value
>>> should be the same as the constant.
>>> 
>>> The release notes really ought to explain why the Clirr report items
>>> aren't a problem.
>>> 
>>>> Which we can't since these are defined in the JRE. And the JRE is
>>>> unlikely to change those.
>>>> 
>>>> Gary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 3. JDK9 adds some extra parameters to the Deprecated annotation
>> (most
>>>>>>> notably  forRemoval=true, which is used to indicate that the
>>> annotated
>>>>> item
>>>>>>> is really really deprecated.)   It's not needed in this case, but
>> is
>>>>> worth
>>>>>>> thinking about  when jdk9 is eventually released (latest schedule
>>>>> change :
>>>>>>> from 7/27/2017 to 9/21/2017).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do not think we plan on making Java 9 a requirement for any
>> current
>>>>>> project.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [1]  https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/commit/7c19a1ff4c217
>>>>>>> f03c0be62baf1169d689f566825#diff-820a48456e11e85bf6cf5356c1aed4
>> baR48
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [2] https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se8/html/jls-
>>>>>>> 13.html#jls-13.4.9
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 8, 2017 4:48 AM, "Benedikt Ritter" <brit...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> we have fixed quite a few bugs and added some nice new features
>>> since
>>>>>>>> Commons Lang 3.5 was released, so I would like to release Commons
>>> Lang
>>>>>>> 3.6
>>>>>>>> based on RC3.
>>>>>>>> The following issues have been fixed since RC2:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Site build now works from source distribution
>>>>>>>> - IBM JDK test failures have been fixed
>>>>>>>> - Automatic-Module-Name MANIFEST entry has been added for Java 9
>>>>>>>> compatibility
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Commons Lang 3.6 R3 is available for review here:
>>>>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/lang (svn
>> revision
>>>>>>> 19928)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The tag is here:
>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=commons-lang.git;
>>> a=tag;h=
>>>>>>>> e454e79463ffbbd9114db43019dd211debbcc105
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Commit ID the tag points at:
>>>>>>>> 360198dfb6a2d68f1702f616dfacee34ae0541bb
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maven Artifacts:
>>>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
>>>>>>> orgapachecommons-1250
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> These are the Maven artifacts and their hashes:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6-
>>> javadoc.jar
>>>>>>>> (SHA1: c8adadb6c0b56c73f2cc2b4c77a09bfe34ec3a66)
>>>>>>>> /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6-
>>>>> sources.jar.asc
>>>>>>>> (SHA1: 46347c179ca9246d146d653bdc7363bda6f17d44)
>>>>>>>> /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6.pom.asc
>>>>>>>> (SHA1: 1309d4f3dd41a01ff9dd1f3c1a6eee10dad1ef77)
>>>>>>>> /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6.pom
>>>>>>>> (SHA1: 0fb4499188c94c63b3cba44f12481e193708c4a8)
>>>>>>>> /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6.jar.asc
>>>>>>>> (SHA1: e67e7d44751f1e346c2fda496193cbe251cfe098)
>>>>>>>> /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6-
>>>>> javadoc.jar.asc
>>>>>>>> (SHA1: 6b19fa12d319ced69c0f8a27001569514711f9dc)
>>>>>>>> /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6-
>>> sources.jar
>>>>>>>> (SHA1: f89c1df082d6f67cb7c956715c56d7e7a0508d0a)
>>>>>>>> /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6.jar
>>>>>>>> (SHA1: e58ba08b01d37a023746f0987dcd910036a63021)
>>>>>>>> /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6-
>>> tests.jar.asc
>>>>>>>> (SHA1: af050e8c29a801a5d6783268c56230b814f56240)
>>>>>>>> /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6-
>>>>>>>> test-sources.jar.asc
>>>>>>>> (SHA1: 71e4c11efb9e3b2eff402ba4648d21822fb8da4a)
>>>>>>>> /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6-
>>>>> test-sources.jar
>>>>>>>> (SHA1: 04a0fc8293d4ed64a54dcc9ba5f996776a4657ea)
>>>>>>>> /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6-
>> tests.jar
>>>>>>>> (SHA1: 87993a16c14a251062e3fe860fa53b5ef5304a0f)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have tested this with JDK 7, JDK 8 and JDK 9 EA b172 using
>> Maven
>>>>> 3.5.0.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Details of changes since 3.5 are in the release notes:
>>>>>>>>   https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/lang/RELEASE-
>>>>> NOTES.txt
>>>>>>>>   http://home.apache.org/~britter/commons/lang/LANG_3_6_
>>>>>>>> RC3/changes-report.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Site:
>>>>>>>>     http://home.apache.org/~britter/commons/lang/LANG_3_6_RC3
>>>>>>>> (note some *relative* links are broken and the 3.6 directories
>> are
>>>>>>>> not yet created - these will be OK once the site is deployed)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Clirr Report (compared to 3.5):
>>>>>>>>   http://home.apache.org/~britter/commons/lang/LANG_3_6_
>>>>>>>> RC3/clirr-report.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> RAT Report:
>>>>>>>>       http://home.apache.org/~britter/commons/lang/LANG_3_6_
>>>>>>>> RC3/rat-report.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> KEYS:
>>>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/dist/commons/KEYS
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please review the release candidate and vote.
>>>>>>>> This vote will close no sooner that 72 hours from now,
>>>>>>>> i.e. sometime after 11:00 CEST (UTC+2) 11-June 2017
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [ ] +1 Release these artifacts
>>>>>>>> [ ] +0 OK, but...
>>>>>>>> [ ] -0 OK, but really should fix...
>>>>>>>> [ ] -1 I oppose this release because...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>> Benedikt
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