On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> For the tuple classes, it would be possible to make an entire tuples
> library. Might be handy to generate code for it as it'd be useful to
> support tuples up to, say, 22 fields (Scala has tuple classes and anonymous
> function classes up to 22 arguments, for example). See <
> https://www.scala-lang.org/api/current/scala/Tuple22.html>.
>
> If we go to Java 8 as a base line (which would make sense), we don't need a
> commons-date library anymore, though if we did, it would be based on the
> java.time API instead. Not sure which functionality would be useful here.
>

+1 to Java 8 and covering java.time.

It seems like the 3.x line will be alive for a long time and that we might
want to stick to bug fixes only there once 4.0 is out, depending on who
might volunteer to RM.

Gary


>
> For commons-concurrent and -system, I like the ideas. As for -reflection
> versus -beanutils, perhaps some exploration toward merging the two could be
> made?
>
> On 22 May 2017 at 06:47, Rob Tompkins <chtom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > > On May 21, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I think the time has come to start thinking about Lang 4.0. A new major
> > release is a chance to clean up stuff and get rid of APIs we don’t need
> > anymore/don’t want to maintain anymore. Lang has become rather large.
> It’s
> > description still is
> > >
> > > „Lang provides a host of helper utilities for the java.lang API […]"
> > >
> > > When I look at Lang I see a lot of stuff which has nothing to do with
> > the java.lang package. I think our aim for 4.0 should be to get back to
> > that again. I like the approach we took with math. Splitting a large
> > package down into smaller individual components is a good idea. So my
> > proposal is to split out more new components from Lang like we did with
> > commons-text and deprecate that stuff in lang. Then we can start with
> Lang
> > 4.0 and remove all that stuff.
> > >
> > > Here are some components I think we could extract from Lang:
> > >
> > > - commons-system: a library focused on working with system properties
> > and detection of the operation system, system’s architecture and Java
> > version
> > > - commons-concurrent: a library providing additional abstractions and
> > implementations for the java.util.concurrent package
> > > - commons-reflect: a library which helps working with reflection (where
> > is the line to beanutils here?)
> > > - commons-date: a library which helps working with the java.util.Date
> > and java.util.Calendar APIs
> > >
> > > Furthermore I’d remove the o.a.c.lang3.event package. The stuff in
> > o.a.c.lang3.math could maybe find a new home in one of the commons-math
> > components.
> > >
> > > The o.a.c.lang3.builder package fits into Lang 4.0 but I’d rename it to
> > o.a.c.lang4.object (if that’s possible). Further more I’d remove the
> > Builder interface.
> > >
> > > The o.a.c.lang3.mutable and o.a.c.lang3.tuple package as well as the
> > o.a.c.lang3.exception package can stay as they are.
> > >
> > > WDYT?
> >
> > The only thing that occurs to me is that we should make sure that Java 9
> > is fully in general availability before releasing 4.0.
> >
> > > Benedikt
> >
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>
>
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