On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 3:41 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 27 November 2016 at 22:31, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 2:14 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> On 27 November 2016 at 22:03, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > These annotations are the SAME as have been published all over the >> place, >> >> > so I do not think we need a PR for review. Reviewing the code in the >> repo >> >> > should be enough, but I'm not sure _what_ there is to review really. >> I've >> >> > already posted a link to the sources (a pastebin link). I'll create a >> >> Jira >> >> > of course. >> >> >> >> There is one aspect that needs review: does the annotation belong in >> LANG? >> >> If we want to use the annotation in other components, do they have to >> >> depend on LANG? >> >> >> > >> > No see below and previous messages. >> > >> > >> >> If not, do they all have their own copies? >> >> >> > >> > No. >> > >> > >> >> >> >> And what happens when LANG needs a non-BC release? >> >> >> > >> > What is the issue I am missing? >> > >> >> The package name for the annotation might need to change >> That would be a downstream nuisance. >> > > Hi All, > > How is that different than changing the package name for any of our other > lang types? > > If you want move a package, you have to break BC and we have clear > guidelines for that task. > > Since already have a package called org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent, > I propose we place these annottaions in org.apache.commons.lang3. > concurrent.annotation. > > >> >> >> >> My expectation for such annotations is that they would be >> >> self-contained (or built-in to the languange, not LANG). >> >> >> > >> > It is _because_ they are NOT built-in the language or JRE that we are >> > proposing they belong in [lang]. >> > >> > Since we are providing the annotation with CLASS retention only >> > (initially), there is no hard dependency on [lang] at runtime. >> > >> > Is there some subtlety we are missing? >> >> Yes, the compile-time dependency. >> > > No surprise, right? You can't use an annotation without compiling the > source file. > > >> AFAIK it's not possible to have a Maven compile-only dependency; >> compile-time implies run-time. >> > > That's a tooling issue of course which should not invalidate the > worthiness of this feature. > > If I am a downstream user of Commons Lang's new annotations, I would need > a Maven scope that says "I need [lang] as a compile time only dependency" I > do not see such a scope on https://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/ > introduction-to-dependency-mechanism.html#Dependency_Scope > > Time for a Jira! > > I wonder what Gradle offers users in this dept.? > This looks promising for Gradle users at least: https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/artifact_dependencies_tutorial.html Gary > > Gary > > >> >> > Gary >> > >> > >> >> > Gary >> >> > >> >> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org >> > >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> >> >> Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> schrieb am So., 27. Nov. >> 2016 um >> >> >> 21:01 Uhr: >> >> >> >> >> >> > So let's start with the CLASS retention annotations first. I'll >> commit >> >> >> > later today. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Maybe create a GitHub PR so people can have a look before it goes to >> >> >> master? >> >> >> >> >> >> Benedikt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Gary >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Nov 27, 2016 9:50 AM, "Matt Sicker" <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > I feel like documenting thread safety in such a low level, >> widely >> >> used >> >> >> > > library like [lang] is a great idea. Whether it uses >> annotations, >> >> >> > javadocs, >> >> >> > > or some sort of informal javadoc comments isn't too big a deal >> to >> >> me, >> >> >> but >> >> >> > > providing some guarantees of thread safety or lack thereof >> would be >> >> >> > > invaluable information. >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > On 27 November 2016 at 07:11, Benedikt Ritter < >> brit...@apache.org> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > I thought we decided to abstain from documenting thread safety >> >> since >> >> >> it >> >> >> > > > would get outdated quickly anyway. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> schrieb am So., 27. >> Nov. >> >> 2016 >> >> >> um >> >> >> > > > 09:11 Uhr: >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > But if we then want a runtime version we had an odd >> packaging >> >> with >> >> >> > > CLASS >> >> >> > > > > retention in .concurrent. and RUNTIME in >> .concurrent.runtime. >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > I might be in YAGNI territory here... >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Gary >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Matt Sicker < >> boa...@gmail.com >> >> > >> >> >> > > wrote: >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > I think adding the additional clazz/runtime package would >> be a >> >> >> > little >> >> >> > > > > > overkill if you only include one packaging option for now. >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > On 27 November 2016 at 00:04, Gary Gregory < >> >> >> garydgreg...@gmail.com >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > > wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > On Nov 26, 2016 8:40 PM, "Matt Sicker" < >> boa...@gmail.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > I can think of a couple use cases for runtime >> retention >> >> for >> >> >> > > thread >> >> >> > > > > > safety >> >> >> > > > > > > > annotations, but they're not specific to commons lang. >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > 1. A framework could choose what type of data >> structure or >> >> >> > > > algorithm >> >> >> > > > > to >> >> >> > > > > > > use >> >> >> > > > > > > > at runtime based on the presence of which thread >> safety >> >> >> > > annotation >> >> >> > > > is >> >> >> > > > > > on. >> >> >> > > > > > > > Same for mutability. >> >> >> > > > > > > > 2. A testing framework could use these annotations to >> try >> >> and >> >> >> > > > > automate >> >> >> > > > > > > some >> >> >> > > > > > > > sort of thread safety tests, though that sounds like a >> >> hard >> >> >> > > problem >> >> >> > > > > to >> >> >> > > > > > > > actually implement. >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > However, it'd be easier to just start with class >> retention >> >> >> (or >> >> >> > > > source >> >> >> > > > > > > > retention) just for documentation purposes. Higher >> >> retention >> >> >> > > levels >> >> >> > > > > > could >> >> >> > > > > > > > be added later if an important use case came up. >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > But which packaging option? >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > Gary >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > On 26 November 2016 at 19:56, Gary Gregory < >> >> >> > > garydgreg...@gmail.com >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 3:54 PM, sebb < >> seb...@gmail.com >> >> > >> >> >> > > wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > On 26 November 2016 at 19:25, Gary Gregory < >> >> >> > > > > garydgreg...@gmail.com >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > On a [crypto] thread, I mentioned >> >> >> > > > http://pastebin.com/RKPGGdJ9 >> >> >> > > > > > to >> >> >> > > > > > > add >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > the >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > "classic" four javax.annotation.concurrent >> >> annotations >> >> >> to >> >> >> > > two >> >> >> > > > > > > packages >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > (.clazz and .runtime) in Commons Lang for CLASS >> and >> >> >> > RUNTIME >> >> >> > > > > > > retentions. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > You'd use the CLASS version to avoid a hard >> >> dependency >> >> >> on >> >> >> > > > > [lang]. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > RUNTIME >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > to keep them around. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > We'd use the CLASS versions in all of Commons >> for >> >> >> > > documenting >> >> >> > > > > > > thread >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > safety. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > Definitely Class retention, not Runtime. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > You don't want to have to include the annotation >> jar >> >> on >> >> >> the >> >> >> > > > > runtime >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > classpath. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Hi Sebb, >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Right now I have both of these packages: >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > - org.apache.commons.lang3.annot >> ation.concurrent.clazz >> >> >> > > > > > > > > - org.apache.commons.lang3. >> >> annotation.concurrent.runtime >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Each with a copy of: >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > GuardedBy >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Immutable >> >> >> > > > > > > > > NotThreadSafe >> >> >> > > > > > > > > ThreadSafe >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Should we include what I have as is? >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > If we were to only provide the annotation at the >> CLASS >> >> >> > > retention >> >> >> > > > > > level, >> >> >> > > > > > > > > should we still package them in >> >> >> > ...annotation.concurrent.clazz >> >> >> > > in >> >> >> > > > > > case >> >> >> > > > > > > we >> >> >> > > > > > > > > want to provide annotation.concurrent.runtime later? >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > If we know for certain we never want to provide >> RUNTIME >> >> >> > > > retention, >> >> >> > > > > we >> >> >> > > > > > > can >> >> >> > > > > > > > > put them all in annotation.concurrent now. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Thoughts? >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Gary >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > [I don't know why the annotations were ever >> considered >> >> >> > > suitable >> >> >> > > > > for >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > runtime] >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > Gary >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > -- >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | >> >> ggreg...@apache.org >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition 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