Hi John,

Yes, I have stepped away from the PMC, but I have been reviewing pull
requests on Github, mostly the RDF4J and JSONLD-Java integrations
which I am a contributor to.

Most of my contributions were done before moving the project into
Apache incubation. The previous repository has been archived, but
still exists to delineate the crossing point:

https://github.com/commons-rdf/commons-rdf/graphs/contributors

Cheers,

Peter

On 22 November 2016 at 13:47, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
> Sometimes, we have to believe in github's data.
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-commonsrdf/graphs/contributors
>
> It indicates its primarily Stian, a bit of Sergio.  Andy has helped a bit, 
> but I do believe Peter has stepped away from the project based on the mail 
> archives.
>
> John
>
> On 2016-11-17 12:11 (-0500), Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am more concerned about the size of the community here. Is Paul still
>> involved in the code, still wants to be involved, or do we have an SME pool
>> size of 1?
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Nov 16, 2016 11:09 PM, "Benedikt Ritter" <brit...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I think we can move RDF to Commons regardless of the maturity of the API.
>> > We have other proper components which never had a release. RDF already had
>> > three.
>> >
>> > Benedikt
>> >
>> > Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> schrieb am Mi. 16. Nov. 2016 um
>> > 23:52:
>> >
>> > > Another is that ServiceLoader don't work well under OSGi without careful
>> > > hand holding, so it may be best to leave that to the consumer code rather
>> > > than say have a static method in the API with a fixed ServiceLoader.
>> > >
>> > > (I always have trouble with the ServiceLoader instances built in to Java,
>> > > which become very sensitive to which thread initates first)
>> > >
>> > > It might be worth adding the OSGi service @annotations (or corresponding
>> > > XML files) so RDF implementations can be used as OSGI services; all
>> > Commons
>> > > RDF modules should already be bundles.
>> > >
>> > > OSGi is probably a good fit with Commons RDF as a library can export only
>> > > use of interfaces org.apache.commons.rdf.api, but depend on say RDF4J
>> > > internally or get any RDF implementation injected as an OSGi service;
>> > which
>> > > would not be visible to clients of said library.
>> > >
>> > > And as the Commons RDF API is interoperable, another part of the
>> > > application may use Jena (without knowing it) and pass say a Graph to
>> > said
>> > > library without any problems.
>> > >
>> > > BTW, anchor link didn't work because GitHub and Maven have different
>> > > Markdown flavours, link is instead:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > https://commonsrdf.incubator.apache.org/userguide.html#
>> > Finding_an_RDF_implementation
>> > >
>> > > As noted in there, care must be taken with reuse of an RDF instance and
>> > > labeled blank nodes: there is no RDFFactoryFactory.
>> > > rdf.getClass().newInstance() should work for anything from a
>> > ServiceLoader
>> > > (but not an OSGi Service which uses proxy classes).
>> > >
>> > > On 16 Nov 2016 10:02 pm, "Peter Ansell" <ansell.pe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Gary,
>> > > >
>> > > > There is support for java.util.ServiceLoader with the relevant
>> > > > META-INF/services files and default constructors, detailed in the
>> > > > userguide.md file currently, but could also be in README.md:
>> > > >
>> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-commonsrdf/blob/
>> > > > master/src/site/markdown/userguide.md#Finding_an_RDF_implementation
>> > > >
>> > > > However, users may be aware of which implementation they prefer and
>> > > > use it specifically, to match up with their database drivers or other
>> > > > libraries so the direct constructor patterns will be used regularly
>> > > > also.
>> > > >
>> > > > The main reason for that would be that if you use the ServiceLoader
>> > > > approach (just using the RDF interface) you don't have object level
>> > > > access to the mutators to create native Jena/RDF4J/etc. objects out of
>> > > > the Commons RDF objects. There should still be static methods for
>> > > > those cases, but they are less simple to use than the mutators in
>> > > > general.
>> > > >
>> > > > Cheers,
>> > > >
>> > > > Peter
>> > > >
>> > > > On 17 November 2016 at 02:49, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > In the read me I see a link to an example that has
>> > > > >
>> > > > > public RDF createFactory() {
>> > > > >         return new SimpleRDF();
>> > > > >     }
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Is/should a service loader be used to allow pluging in/discovering
>> > > > > implementations?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Gary
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Nov 16, 2016 5:22 AM, "Stian Soiland-Reyes" <st...@apache.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Commons RDF (incubating) has been in the Apache Incubator since 2015,
>> > > > > with an aim to graduate into the Apache Commons PMC.   I think now
>> > the
>> > > > > time has come to propose such a move.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > This route was agreed with the Commons PMC at the time, and we have
>> > > > > had good guidance from our mentors, including Commons PMC folks Gary
>> > > > > Gregory, Benedikt Ritter and lately myself :)
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > As noted in the 0.3.0 release today, Commons RDF aims to provide a
>> > > > > common Java API for RDF 1.1 graphs and datasets.  Commons RDF 0.3.0
>> > > > > adds API bindings for Apache Jena, Eclipse RDF4J, JSON-LD Java as
>> > well
>> > > > > as a standalone implementation.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > http://commonsrdf.incubator.apache.org/
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Now I think Commons RDF is stabilized and is ready to graduate to be
>> > a
>> > > > > component under Commons PMC where we can do a 1.0.0 release to mark
>> > > > > the spot.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > (Concurrent thread on dev@commonsrdf:
>> > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/760b2d58e344e51550dcc9f6452395
>> > > > > efe72e97d3dc06169ef72f09c6@%3Cdev.commonsrdf.apache.org%3E
>> > > > > )
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I must admit that community-wise Commons RDF is not as strong as when
>> > > > > the podling started - forming a uniform API across multiple
>> > > > > implementations and use cases did mean many hard technical and
>> > > > > semantic discussions which caused some people to withdraw for a
>> > while.
>> > > > > Several has since returned as indirect contributors (e.g. code
>> > > > > review).
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Now that the Commons RDF API has settled, and given that Commons has
>> > a
>> > > > > "any ASF committer have write access" policy and an open development
>> > > > > mode, I would like to propose here (and at dev@commonsrdf) that the
>> > > > > component graduate to be owned by Apache Commons PMC.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Views..?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Here's a project maturity report
>> > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-commonsrdf/blob/
>> > master/MATURITY.md
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Want to crunch some code ? Have a look at
>> > > > >
>> > > > > https://commonsrdf.incubator.apache.org/download
>> > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-commonsrdf/
>> > > > > https://commonsrdf.incubator.apache.org/apidocs/
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Stian Soiland-Reyes
>> > > > > http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>> > > > >
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