On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Oliver Heger <oliver.he...@oliver-heger.de> wrote:
> > > Am 21.09.2016 um 20:20 schrieb Gary Gregory: > > I'd like to propose an orderly migration assume BC is preserved: > > > > - Release 3.5 RC as scheduled this weekend > > - Release 3.6 with Java 7 changes > > - Release 3.7 with Java 8 changes > > > > This will give us an opportunity to do some Java 7 work and put that out > > without leaving Java 7-only folks out of the picture. > > No objections, but just wondering whether Java 7 would have a big > benefit. Are there many places in [lang] where new language features are > useful? > I've not turned on Java 7 in my workspace for [lang] but I am sure all sorts of compiler warnings will show up that will clean up the code like: - Use try-with-resources to bullet-proof the whole code base - Use the diamond notation - String in switch statements - Catching multiple exception types - Better binary and number literals. - What else? Gary > And what would be the (rough) time frame of these releases? > > Oliver > > > > > Gary > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > >> +1 to be brave and make Lang 3.6 be Java 8, so Lambda helpers can join > >> here. I have a couple of Stream helpers that could also fit in there. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 21 September 2016 at 18:19, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> Jörg Schaible <joerg.schai...@bpm-inspire.com> schrieb am Mi., 21. > Sep. > >>>> 2016 um 16:55 Uhr: > >>>> > >>>>> Jan Matèrne (jhm) wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> We could also have Lamda utility classes in [lang], the classes > >> would > >>>>>>> target Java 8 while the other classes would remain at the Java 6 > >> level > >>>>>>> (this implies compiling the classes separately and recombining > >> them in > >>>>>>> the final jar). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> From a users point of view I would search in commons-lang for > >> language > >>>>>> "extensions". But this kind of building would be ... complex. > >>>>> > >>>>> No, it's a quite simple configuration with Maven. However, you have > >> to be > >>>>> prepared for users running into problems using the resulting jar > file: > >>>>> > >>>>> 1/ in Android, because the Dalvik compiler is not able to convert the > >>>>> classes targeting Java 8 > >>>>> > >>>>> 2/ in Web/App Servers running with Java 7 or below that scan the > >>>> libraries > >>>>> in the classpath for annotations > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> I still think we should use Commons Functor for this kind of > >> functionality. > >>>> Commons Lang originally only hosted extensions to the java.lang > package. > >>>> Over time more and more stuff creeped in (reflect, concurrent, text). > We > >>>> responded to that by creating Commons Text and Commons Functor. I > think > >>>> small focused components are the right direction instead of putting > even > >>>> more stuff into Commons Lang. I hope to have some time to work on Text > >> and > >>>> Functor after I'm done with the Commons Lang 3.5 release... :) > >>>> > >>> > >>> Once [lang] 3.5 is out, I think we should update [lang] to Java 7. We > >> could > >>> talk about going directly to Java 8. > >>> > >>> Lambdas are a core Java feature, it feel to me like it belongs in > [lang]. > >>> [functor] feels like something that should only be for pre-Java 8. > >>> > >>> Gary > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Benedikt > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> Jörg > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org > >>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition > >>> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> > >>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> > >>> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> > >>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com > >>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ > >>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Stian Soiland-Reyes > >> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718 > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory