Hi.
On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 16:01:20 -0700, Ted Dunning wrote:
Gilles,
Thanks for links.
I just read that (long-winded) thread and I see no consensus that
"Commons
project is not being interested in hosting those components".
In line with what I wrote previously, there isn't any consensus on
anything
within Commons.
I'm asking, again, whether I need to initiate a VOTE that would allow
me
to set up a workspace ("git", etc.) and transfer some code from CM over
there.
Or can I jut do it? [Some help with doing that is most welcome.]
It may be that incubation is a good thing for Commons Math, but it
doesn't
seem valid to say that incubation is necessary because CM is being
kicked
out of Commons.
Never said so.
There is a confusion here: *I* say that CM is dead.
It was dead already in early February but nobody noticed because *I*
(alone) continued to answer the ML, comment on JIRA reports and commit
code.
Why I was alone doing that became clear when Luc announced his
resignation
and the fork.
The development situation *will* change because the context *has*
changed
(unsupported code).
CM cannot go on as it did before the fork.
Everybody (developers, users, Commons PMC) would be better off with a
selected set of new (supported) components because this is something we
can easily do *now* (RERO, etc.).
I'm OK to go through the incubator to do that; but I don't see that it
is an easier path. Surely it looks longer. And it seems that even the
incubator people doubt that it will lead anywhere.
Given the uncertain outcome, going through the incubator would be an
attempt at rethinking the development of the currently unsupported
code. See e.g.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MATH-172
[Or is that out of scope for an incubation proposal?]
Gilles
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Gilles
<gil...@harfang.homelinux.org>
wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 08:51:36 -0700, Ted Dunning wrote:
Excuse me?
See inline.
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Gilles
<gil...@harfang.homelinux.org>
wrote:
Hi all.
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:01:13 -0700, Ralph Goers wrote:
I thought this had been made clear. Several months Commons voted
to
make Math a TLP. But shortly after that most of the people
involved
with Commons Math felt that a TLP at the ASF would not work for
them,
so they forked the project and left, effectively voiding the TLP
vote
since the proposed PMC is no longer valid. There is one person
left
who was very involved in Commons Math and a few other people who
have
expressed interest in joining the new community.
So this is a situation where we have an already existing code
base
where a lot of the people left are not familiar with quite a bit
of
it. The new group of people who are interested are trying to
determine how they should move forward. There is some talk of
breaking
Commons Math into smaller components and possibly dropping some
where
there is no one to maintain it.
The "Commons" project not being interested in hosting those
components,
is the "incubator" a good place for the developers wishing to go
in that
direction?
Perhaps before we move to next steps, could you provide some links
to the
discussion where it was decided that Commons is not interested in
hosting
these components?
I proposed to concretely examine this possibility in more than
one message:
http://markmail.org/message/ye6wvqvlvnqe4qrp
http://markmail.org/message/3gupcednhqtcfepw
http://markmail.org/message/3kob7djjicax6rgn
http://markmail.org/message/7rb2mxq7hhwzykvr
And again in another thread:
http://markmail.org/message/fnlta2ttfne3aj5f
What's the next step?
Let's get to a common understanding of what went before.
Even that seems impossible. :-(
Gilles
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