I wish we didn’t have to use SVN for site publication. Due to infra’s 
restrictions on home.apache.org <http://home.apache.org/> I had to publish the 
Log4j rc candidate web site at github.io <http://github.io/> instead of at 
people.apache.org <http://people.apache.org/> like I used to.  It took me about 
30 seconds to deploy. When I go to publish the site at Apache it will take me 
10-20 minutes.

Ralph

> On May 24, 2016, at 3:25 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 24 May 2016 at 22:55, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:51 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:seb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 24 May 2016 at 21:36, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> The more this goes on the more I wish we'd switch all Commons components
>>> to
>>>> git lock stock and two smoking barrels.
>>> 
>>> That would not affect GitHub, which will still be readonly.
>>> 
>> 
>> Sure, but one thing I look forward to is simpler build/release/publish
>> instructions. Right now, https://commons.apache.org/releases/prepare.html 
>> <https://commons.apache.org/releases/prepare.html>
>> is getting MORE complicated because we have started adding Git instructions.
> 
> Note that SVN is not going to go away; it will always be needed for
> the DIST repo.
> And probably for site publication as well.
> 
> So there will always be a need to document both.
> 
> However the sections which relate to the SCM are a relatively small
> part of the whole and could be extracted ino separate pages for the
> relevant SCM if required.
> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> Gary
>>>> On May 24, 2016 12:43 PM, <e...@zusammenkunft.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Jochen,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think the announcement is refering to the Apache hosted Git
>>> (writeable)
>>>>> repositories (https://git-wip-us.apache.org/) - not the apache
>>>>> organisation on github or the public git mirror (https://git.apache.org
>>> ).
>>>>> Those are always read-only mirrors. (Note that most commons projects are
>>>>> still in SVN, which means there is no writeable git master repo for them
>>>>> either)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gruss
>>>>> Bernd
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://bernd.eckenfels.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Jochen Wiedmann <jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org>
>>>>> Cc: Commons Users List <u...@commons.apache.org>, "annou...@apache.org"
>>> <
>>>>> annou...@apache.org>
>>>>> Sent: Di., 24 Mai 2016 12:24
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Commons git repositories now writable for
>>>>> all ASF committers
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 5:13 PM, Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> a while back, the Apache Commons project decided to grant write
>>> access to
>>>>>> all ASF committers [1]. While setting this up for our SVN repositories
>>>>> was
>>>>>> easy, we had some problems to grant the necessary karma to all ASF
>>>>>> committers for our git repositories. This problem has now been fixed
>>> [2].
>>>>>> All ASF committers should now be able to commit to our git
>>> repositories
>>>>> as
>>>>>> well. This includes the repositories of the following components:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Apache Commons Lang
>>>>>> - Apache Commons Math
>>>>>> - Apache Commons Compress
>>>>>> - Apache Commons SCXML
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you experience any issues, please report them on
>>>>> dev@commons.apache.org.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have fun,
>>>>>> Benedikt, on behalf of the Apache Commons community
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] https://s.apache.org/RKWl
>>>>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-10636
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doesn't work for my Github User (jochenw):
>>>>> 
>>>>> $ git push
>>>>> Username for 'https://github.com':
>>>>> Password for 'https://joch...@github.com':
>>>>> remote: Permission to apache/commons-fileupload.git denied to jochenw.
>>>>> fatal: unable to access
>>>>> 'https://github.com/apache/commons-fileupload.git/': The requested URL
>>>>> returned error: 403
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> The next time you hear: "Don't reinvent the wheel!"
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> http://www.keystonedevelopment.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/evolution-of-the-wheel-300x85.jpg
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