Ok, so maybe I just exclude these files from the release and add some
Assume calls in the tests. I can do that...
On May 24, 2016 3:04 PM, "sebb" <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 24 May 2016 at 22:53, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:46 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 24 May 2016 at 22:09, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I just added a little more "docs" in revision 1745267. Awaiting
> >> feedback.
> >> >>
> >>
> >> The commit is a comment in the POM in the RAT excludes section.
> >>
> >> I don't see how that relates to the FERC license discussion.
> >> Since they are test data files one would expect them to be exempt from
> >> RAT anyway.
> >>
> >> > Any thoughts? No need to start another RC until this is squared away.
> >>
> >> If we cannot establish what the license is then we don't know whether
> >> they are even AL compatible, let alone what attribution if any is
> >> required.
> >>
> >> Do we really need the files?
> >>
> >> What benefit do they provide?
> >>
> >
> > These files show that we are testing against real world data, as opposed
> to
> > using our own CSVPrinter to create test data or cobbling up tests by
> hand.
> > Using our own CSVPrinter would provide that we can parse what we can
> print,
> > a useful test but this does not show "real" data. Hand-created test files
> > may have a subjective bias as to the range of features tested.
> >
> > At least it is a sanity check, and for more, using real world data may
> also
> > end up letting us find bugs, edge cases and discover the need for new
> > features.
>
> Then if we want to keep them, we need to establish what the license is.
> Or find some other CSV files that have a suitable license.
>
> Note that the FercGovTest.java file contains details which appear to
> be extracted from the test files.
>
> If we want to release CSV in the near future, I suggest we remove the
> data files and the test case for now.
>
> Meanwhile someone can try again to contact FERC. I note that there is
> a phone number, so perhaps there is someone in the US who can progress
> this.
>
> The relevant page is at:
>
> http://www.ferc.gov/docs-filing/eqr/xml.asp
>
> I also note that there are two e-mail addresses on the page.
> They are different from the one mentioned in the JIRA from which there
> was no response, so might be worth trying.
>
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >>
> >> > Gary
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Gary
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Gary Gregory <
> garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi All:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> These files were discussed here:
> >> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-175
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I never got a reply IIRC from FERC, see the above link for my email.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> So we decided to ship the files in the configuration as they still
> are
> >> in
> >> >>> 1.4-RC1.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I looks like we want to do it differently now, so:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - I removed the entries from the NOTICE file.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - I added a comment in the POM RAT excludes section.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> FWIW: Here are the current FERC examples:
> >> >>> http://www.ferc.gov/docs-filing/eqr/xml.asp but still no license or
> >> >>> copyright on the files.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> In the future (>1.4), I'd like to use these files and keep
> gathering a
> >> >>> pile of IRL examples.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Is the state of trunk (now at revision 1745238) OK for an RC2?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Gary
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 7:14 AM, Benedikt Ritter <
> brit...@apache.org>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Hi,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Moving this away from the vote thread...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I'm pretty sure we've already discussed the problem with the
> ferc.gov
> >> >>>> file
> >> >>>> but I can't find a reference in the archives. Can anybody help?
> >> >>>> I agree with Stian, that we should better document this.
> >> >>>> I'm not sure whether this is a blocker, since 1.3 has been
> released in
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>> same state wrt NOTICE.txt.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Regards,
> >> >>>> Benedikt
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> >> >>>> From: Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>
> >> >>>> Date: Mo., 23. Mai 2016 um 15:59 Uhr
> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Commons CSV 1.4 RC1
> >> >>>> To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On 23 May 2016 at 06:53, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>> > Apache Commons CSV 1.4 RC1 is available for review here:
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/csv/1.4-RC1/
> >> >>>> > (revision 13733)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I assume you mean
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/csv/CSV_1_4_RC1/
> >> >>>> (@13733)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> My vote: -1  due to NOTICE issues.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Checked:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> +1 Signatures
> >> >>>> +1 Hashes
> >> >>>> +1 mvn clean install
> >> >>>> +1 mvn apache-rat:check
> >> >>>> -1 NOTICE is outdated, and material copyright
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Notice includes:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> src/main/resources/contract.txt
> >> >>>> This file was downloaded from
> >> >>>>
> >> http://www.ferc.gov/docs-filing/eqr/soft-tools/sample-csv/contract.txt
> >> >>>> and contains neither copyright notice nor license.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> src/main/resources/transaction.txt
> >> >>>> This file was downloaded from
> >> >>>>
> >>
> http://www.ferc.gov/docs-filing/eqr/soft-tools/sample-csv/transaction.txt
> >> >>>> and contains neither copyright notice nor license.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> (I don't care that the URLs are 404)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> however these files are now in
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> ./src/test/resources/ferc.gov/
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> We can't include files that "contain neither copyright notice nor
> >> >>>> license" - that means regular copyright remains and we don't have
> >> >>>> permission to use it.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> As a US government organization, ferc.gov SHOULD be publishing
> under
> >> >>>> Public Domain - but we can't include their work if that has not
> been
> >> >>>> expressed.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Note that I have not searched the email archive or Jira in case
> the IP
> >> >>>> of these files have already been cleared.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> This bit of the NOTICE should be removed as it is not a required
> >> >>>> attribution notice. Move it to a comment in the apache-rat exclude
> in
> >> >>>> the pom.xml
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/bom.csv
> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/test.csv
> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/test_default.txt
> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/test_default_comment.txt
> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/test_rfc4180.txt
> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/test_rfc4180_trim.txt
> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/testCSV85.csv
> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/testCSV85_default.txt
> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/testCSV85_ignoreEmpty.txt
> >> >>>> These files are used as test data and test result specifications.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Checked using Ubuntu 16:04 x/64:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Apache Maven 3.3.9 (bb52d8502b132ec0a5a3f4c09453c07478323dc5;
> >> >>>> 2015-11-10T16:41:47+00:00)
> >> >>>> Maven home: /home/stain/software/maven
> >> >>>> Java version: 1.8.0_91, vendor: Oracle Corporation
> >> >>>> Java home: /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre
> >> >>>> Default locale: en_GB, platform encoding: UTF-8
> >> >>>> OS name: "linux", version: "4.4.0-22-generic", arch: "amd64",
> family:
> >> >>>> "unix"
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4-bin.tar.gz
> >> >>>> > (SHA1: 19806d3a6b2f8c6569f50b294da1d3f3a5be4429)
> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4-bin.zip
> >> >>>> > (SHA1: f551f471081c75a4cb6710b9981a3e0c858debd3)
> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4-src.tar.gz
> >> >>>> > (SHA1: 08151857d96af4c95ddbd5131f40e56b05eb088f)
> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4-src.zip
> >> >>>> > (SHA1: c379ec116117e0a9bbd66f7bb3279cfe1e9697ef)
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >   Maven artifacts are here:
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecommons-1172/org/apache/commons/commons-csv/1.4/
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > These are the artifacts and their hashes:
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4-test-sources.jar
> >> >>>> > (SHA1: fa468674f62177f6182a318f4d1bb7b385e146b6)
> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4-sources.jar
> >> >>>> > (SHA1: f8e3c6b3d3c1a5bbd80ad5b73c72a98af471c401)
> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4.pom
> >> >>>> > (SHA1: c065422ac0fd4ff25016fb2fcb00af3874103935)
> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4.jar
> >> >>>> > (SHA1: 5221b8e5d24f26aab600d367313c6620c7f1fdb6)
> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4-javadoc.jar
> >> >>>> > (SHA1: 878a92f52149c3d3050332fbfb9702ed3a64c515)
> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4-tests.jar
> >> >>>> > (SHA1: 2eb791225c8f002be1fa0f4b6d68110e63b14f5a)
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >   Details of changes since 1.3 are in the release notes:
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/csv/CSV_1_4_RC1/RELEASE-NOTES.txt
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> http://home.apache.org/~ggregory/csv-1.4-rc1/site/changes-report.html
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >   The tag is here:
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/csv/tags/csv-1.4-RC1/
> >> >>>> >     (revision 1745108)
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >   Site:
> >> >>>> >     http://home.apache.org/~ggregory/csv-1.4-rc1/site/
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >    (some *relative* links are broken - these will be OK once the
> >> site
> >> >>>> > is deployed)
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >   Clirr Report (compared to 1.3):
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> http://home.apache.org/~ggregory/csv-1.4-rc1/site/clirr-report.html
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >   RAT Report:
> >> >>>> >
> >> http://home.apache.org/~ggregory/csv-1.4-rc1/site/rat-report.html
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >   KEYS:
> >> >>>> >   https://www.apache.org/dist/commons/KEYS
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >   Please review the release candidate and vote.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >   This vote will close no sooner than 72 hours from now,
> >> >>>> >   i.e. sometime after 23:00 PST 25 May 2016
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >   [ ] +1 Release these artifacts
> >> >>>> >   [ ] +0 OK, but...
> >> >>>> >   [ ] -0 OK, but really should fix...
> >> >>>> >   [ ] -1 I oppose this release because...
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >   Thanks!
> >> >>>> >   Gary Gregory
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > --
> >> >>>> > E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org
> >> >>>> > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
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> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Stian Soiland-Reyes
> >> >>>> Apache Commons, Apache Taverna (incubating), Apache Commons RDF
> >> >>>> (incubating)
> >> >>>> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
> >> >>>> ./src/test/resources/ferc.gov/contract.txt
> >> >>>>
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