On 2 February 2016 at 13:39, Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 12:53:53 +0000, sebb wrote:
>>
>> On 2 February 2016 at 12:11, Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2016-02-02 12:43, Gilles wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 10:06:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
>>>>> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
>>>>> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
>>>>> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
>>>>> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
>>>>> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
>>>>> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
>>>>> choice for the name.
>>>>>
>>>>> AjaMa
>>>>> Epsilon
>>>>> Erdos
>>>>> Euclid
>>>>> Euler
>>>>> Gauss
>>>>> JAML
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This choice:
>>>>
>>>>> Math
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> can potentially lead to legal and/or technical problems:
>>>>   * name of the JAR will basically be "math.jar", easily clashing
>>>>     with local toolboxes (also named without much imagination)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> apache-math-x.y.z.jar
>
>
> Just, this is not the current naming:
> "bare" name -> bare.jar

Depends on the project.

Abdera, ACE, Ambari all use apache- prefixes, as do many others.

Others don't.

>>>
>>> will fix the name clashing trivially.
>>>
>>>
>>>>   * name of the project will obviously be impossible to protect
>>
>>
>> The name of the project will be
>>
>> Apache Math
>>
>> which *is* protectable.
>
>
> Then if unique names or acronyms that are easy to identify are no
> valuable arguments, we could have had
>
>    ASL

Possibly; that would depend on the outcome of a name search.

>
> It's shorter than "Math", if that is really what people like in it
> (since no other good points were made AFAICT).
>
>> This is no different from many other ASF projects which use common
>> names that already have meanings.
>>
>> There are very few ASF projects whose bare names are protectable/protected
>
>
> Is it a good reason to add another one?
>
> Having a not already used and not likely to be used name can prevent time
> wasted later in trying to enforce the protection.

That's not the only work that would need to be done.

I agree it would be easier to enforce the name if it is sufficiently unique.
But enforcement is only a part of the workload - the project must
spend time checking whether there are misuses of the name.

That work is not necessary if the name is only used in conjunction
with the Apache prefix.

>
> Gilles
>
>
>>>>
>>>>> MathBlocks
>>>>> MathComponents (or Math Components)
>>>>> Mathelactica
>>>>> MathModules
>>>>> Megginson
>>>>> modMath
>>>>> Nash
>>>>> Newton
>>>>> Pythagoras
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The second objection of course holds for many names in the list.
>>>> We'd better follow Bertrand's suggestion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gilles
>
>
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