I did not know this was an official vote thread ;-) in any case, I do not
feel strongly for or against it.

Gary
On Jan 15, 2016 5:21 AM, "James Carman" <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:

> You didn't really register a vote here, Gary.  I take it this is a -1
> against moving TLP?
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 8:24 PM Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I like having [math] in Commons. There are other multi-module projects in
> > Commons, that's not an issue IMO, just good project design.
> >
> > My main worry is more on the overall health of Commons or perception that
> > [math] is "leaving" Commons, the more eyeballs on Commons the better.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I would like to propose that we split [math] out into a top level
> > > project at the ASF.  This has been proposed before, and I have
> > > always come down on the side of staying in Commons, but I am now
> > > convinced that it is a good step for us to take for the following
> > > reasons:
> > >
> > > 0) We have several committers who are really only interested in
> > > [math], so being on the Commons PMC does not really make sense for them
> > > 1) The code base has swollen in size to well beyond the "small sharp
> > > tools" that make up the bulk of Commons
> > > 2) We are probably at the point where we should consider splitting
> > > [math] itself into separately released subcomponents (could be done
> > > in Commons, but starts smelling a little Jakarta-ish when Commons
> > > has components with subcomponents).
> > >
> > > The downsides are
> > > a) [newPMC] loses Commons eyeballs / contributors who would not find
> > > us otherwise
> > > b) Migration / repackaging pain
> > > c) Overhead of starting and managing a PMC
> > > d) Other Commons components lose some eyeballs
> > >
> > > Personally, I think the benefits outweigh the downsides at this
> > > point.  New better tools and ASF processes have made b) and c) a
> > > little less onerous.  I don't think d) is really a big problem for
> > > Commons, as those of us who work on other stuff here could continue
> > > to do so.  It is possible that a) actually works in the reverse
> > > direction - i.e., we are easier to find as a TLP.
> > >
> > > What do others think about this?
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > >
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