Hm, interesting. Well, I can see getting starting privately, but a post of some kind should be made to the dev and user lists that we dealt with a licensing issue once we have it all squared away... IMO.
Gary On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Thomas Neidhart <thomas.neidh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, my baseline was always that you should not post private > communications to public mailinglists without the consent of any involved > third-party. > As I am not sure if the people involved did give their permission to do so, > I think it is safe to send it to private@. > > btw. permissions or ICLA / CCLAs sent to Apache are also not publicly > available to my knowledge (although this would be quite interesting). > > Thomas > > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I would think we want the trail to be public to show that we indeed have > > the proper license with proper provenance. What privacy issue? Why should > > this not be transparent process? > > > > Gary > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Thomas Neidhart < > > thomas.neidh...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Michael, > > > > > > to preserve privacy as this is a public mailinglist, could you please > > > forward the relevant email thread to priv...@commons.apache.org ? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Thomas > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Michael Tobias <mich...@tobias.org.uk > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Steve Morse has supplied me with an email trail from May 2011 where > > both > > > > he and Alexander Beider give their permission to the developer who > > ported > > > > the code from php to java to allow the algorithm to be licensed under > > the > > > > Apache 2 open-source license. > > > > > > > > I can post the thread here or submit it privately - your call. > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Gary Gregory [mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com] > > > > Sent: 11 June 2014 16:39 > > > > To: Commons Developers List > > > > Subject: Re: [CODEC] Beider Morse Phonetic Matching Bug and questions > > > > > > > > I can but it won't be for s couple of hours... > > > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Thomas > > Neidhart < > > > > thomas.neidh...@gmail.com> </div><div>Date:06/11/2014 11:16 > > > (GMT-05:00) > > > > </div><div>To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org> > > > > </div><div>Subject: Re: [CODEC] Beider Morse Phonetic Matching Bug > and > > > > questions </div><div> </div>He stated several times that the > > contributed > > > > code is a port from php, but it looks like that everybody assumed he > > was > > > > the copyright owner of the php code (which he obviously isn't). > > > > > > > > It is important to add links (e.g. papers or reference > implementations) > > > > for such code / algorithms, especially in the case of ported code. > > > > Not only to have a clear trace of the license situation but also to > be > > > > able to backport changes/fixes from the original source. > > > > > > > > Regarding the re-licensing of the original source: > > > > > > > > I hope the authors agree, but usually there is a reason why code is > > > > published under GPL rather than BSD/MIT/Apache style licenses. > > > > An option would be to explicitly grant the ASF the permission to use > > > their > > > > code (including the rule files) so that they do not have to > re-publish > > > > their own code. > > > > > > > > Regarding a clean-room implementation: I do not think this is > feasible, > > > as > > > > the core of the algorithm are the associated rule files which also do > > not > > > > appear in the paper itself. > > > > > > > > As the maintainer of codec, do you want to contact the authors about > > this > > > > issue? > > > > > > > > Thomas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org > > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition > > <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> > > JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> > > Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> > > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com > > Home: http://garygregory.com/ > > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory > > > -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
