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-------- Original message -------- From: Duncan Jones <dun...@wortharead.com> Date:02/07/2014 05:48 (GMT-05:00) To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org> Subject: Re: [LANG] Towards 3.3 On 31 January 2014 07:54, Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org> wrote: > Nice discussion. Thanks for clearing this up. So Duncan: go ahead if you > got the time. Hi Benedikt, Based on other discussions on the ML, the fix for LANG-341 belongs in the Conversion class. I think this warrants a larger piece of work to implement some of the "missing" methods in that class. I therefore suggest that LANG-341 should be ignored for 3.3 and shouldn't hold up your plans to release. Duncan > > > 2014/1/31 Duncan Jones <dun...@wortharead.com> > >> On 31 January 2014 04:37, Henri Yandell <flame...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Read section 5 of the license. >> >> Ok, that's pretty clear-cut then. To save others from dragging up the >> wording: >> >> "5. Submission of Contributions. Unless You explicitly state >> otherwise, any Contribution intentionally submitted for inclusion in >> the Work by You to the Licensor shall be under the terms and >> conditions of this License, without any additional terms or >> conditions." >> >> So I'd say any patch to existing source would be covered by that. The >> term Contribution is defined higher in the license and includes >> submission to the issue tracking system. >> >> Obtaining an ICLA should still be a goal, I think, but it shouldn't >> prevent us from adding useful patches to the project. >> >> Duncan >> >> >> >> > On Jan 30, 2014 10:16 AM, "Benedikt Ritter" <brit...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >> >> I'm not sure whether providing a patch for an AL licensed file is >> >> automatically licensed under AL as well. In the end the raw diff file >> does >> >> not contain the AL header, so you're better of with an ICLA. >> >> >> >> Benedikt >> >> >> >> >> >> 2014/1/27 Henri Yandell <flame...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> > Depends whose arguing probably :) >> >> > >> >> > Our license gives us a right to contributions under Apache 2.0 unless >> >> > stated otherwise; the ICLA is playing safer. We can also simply take >> >> > anything under a compatible license and include (with suitable >> >> licensing). >> >> > I did that for a method from Spring. >> >> > >> >> > Hen >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Duncan Jones <dun...@wortharead.com> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > On 26 January 2014 19:47, Duncan Jones <dun...@wortharead.com> >> wrote: >> >> > > > On 26 January 2014 18:49, Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org> >> >> wrote: >> >> > > >> Hi Duncan, >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> 2014/1/26 Duncan Jones <dun...@wortharead.com> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >>> On 26 January 2014 13:33, Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > > >>> > Hi all, >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > we've fixed some bugs and we have some nice new features >> >> > implemented >> >> > > >>> > (DiffBuilder, Jaro-Winkler Distance, RandomUtils, >> >> ClassPathUtils), >> >> > > so I'm >> >> > > >>> > planning to cut a RC in the first week of February. >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > I just wanted to know if there is anything you'd like to have >> >> > > included in >> >> > > >>> > the next release. Then please tag it with fix version 3.3. >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > Regards, >> >> > > >>> > Benedikt >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> I'm debating whether LANG-341 might be a candidate for >> inclusion. >> >> The >> >> > > >>> patch is fairly complete, just needs Javadocs and a couple of >> >> > > >>> additional unit tests, which I can sort over the coming week. >> What >> >> do >> >> > > >>> you guys think? It seems like a useful addition to me. >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> Yes looks neat. The problem I'm seeing is, that the last >> activity is >> >> > > from >> >> > > >> Nov 2011, and the contributor has no ICLA listed (see [1]), so >> IP is >> >> > not >> >> > > >> absolutely clear. I'm unsure if we can use this contribution >> without >> >> > the >> >> > > >> ICLA. Anyway, Hen has contributed the patch Vincent Ricard used, >> so >> >> we >> >> > > can >> >> > > >> use Hen's patch and improve it. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> Benedikt >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> [1] http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html#unlistedclas >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Good point. I think in this case I'll ping the contributor to get >> >> > > > their thoughts on an ICLA and assume this will miss v3.3. He's >> done a >> >> > > > lot of work to extend Hen's patch and it would be a shame for that >> >> not >> >> > > > to get committed if he's interested. If there's no reply (or no >> >> > > > interest), I'll sort something for v3.4. >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > Having said that... does this still represent a problem if the >> >> > > contributor has patched existing code (containing the Apache >> license)? >> >> > > >> >> > > Are there any situations where we can take a patch and apply it to >> >> > > trunk without the contributor having an ICLA? I certainly had >> patches >> >> > > applied in the past without an ICLA, but perhaps things were more >> lax >> >> > > then? >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> Duncan >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >> >> > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> -- >> >> > > >> http://people.apache.org/~britter/ >> >> > > >> http://www.systemoutprintln.de/ >> >> > > >> http://twitter.com/BenediktRitter >> >> > > >> http://github.com/britter >> >> > > >> >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >> >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://people.apache.org/~britter/ >> >> http://www.systemoutprintln.de/ >> >> http://twitter.com/BenediktRitter >> >> http://github.com/britter >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >> >> > > > -- > http://people.apache.org/~britter/ > http://www.systemoutprintln.de/ > http://twitter.com/BenediktRitter > http://github.com/britter --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org