2014/1/15 Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I'd like to change the behavior then, if nobody objects. I'll write some
> > prose for the release notes of 3.3 (which I plan to roll out early
> > February)
> >
>
> Cool.
>
> Do you plan on reviewing all of [lang], StringUtils, or the subset of
> StringUtils at hand WRT empty and null String inputs?
>
Well, depends on how much spare time I have. I'll review at least all of
StringUtils. If I find the time I'll look at the rest of the code base as
well.
Benedikt
>
> Gary
>
> >
> > Benedikt
> >
> > 2014/1/14 sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > On 14 January 2014 11:53, Duncan Jones <djo...@cantab.net> wrote:
> > > > On 14 January 2014 11:17, Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >> 2014/1/13 Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:45 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > What does the Javadoc say?
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The Javadoc describes the current behavior, which is whacky IMO.
> This
> > > could
> > > >>> be a case where the docs documents the code, even though it does
> not
> > > make
> > > >>> sense.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It sounds dangerous to change it in a minor release.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> There are at least two issues:
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. StringUtils.spilt:
> > > >>
> > > >> StringUtils.split(null,<ANY>) = [ ]
> > > >> StringUtils.split("", <ANY>) = null
> > > >>
> > > >> 2. Inconsistency bewteen containsNone and containsOnly (what I said
> > > before):
> > > >>
> > > >> StringUtils.containsOnly("", <ANY>) = StringUtils.containsNone("",
> > > <ANY>)
> > > >> = true
> > > >> All of this is documented in JavaDoc, which doesn't mean it is
> wrong.
> > > >>
> > > >> 1) is just inconvinient. Changing it should not affect client code,
> > > since
> > > >> it will look like this:
> > > >>
> > > >> String[] parts = StringUtils.split(str, "abc");
> > > >> if(party != null) {
> > > >> // iterate over parts
> > > >> }
> > > >>
> > > >> Retruning an empty array will not affect this code.
> > > >
> > > > Not that specific example, no. But it would certainly affect:
> > > >
> > > > String[] parts = StringUtils.split(str, "abc");
> > > > if(party == null) {
> > > > // do something else
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > I don't think this can be changed in a minor release.
> > >
> > > t seems unlikely that the end reult of the code would differ depending
> > > on whether the string was empty or not.
> > >
> > > If it did matter to the application, it seems more likely that the
> > > code would check for the empty string first.
> > >
> > > I think it is unlikely that any code will be affected.
> > >
> > > But clearly if the code is changed, this needs to be highlighted as an
> > > incompatibility (just as for the other case).
> > >
> > > > Duncan
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> 2) is a bug imho and needs to be fixed. The empty string at the same
> > > time
> > > >> contains anything and contains nothing (the latter is right). Bugs
> > > should
> > > >> be fixed in minor releases, even if the fix changes semantics of a
> > > method
> > > >> (from wrong to right). We can make this very clear in the release
> > notes
> > > >> with an additional subscetion about this.
> > > >>
> > > >> Benedikt
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Gary
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > On 13 January 2014 17:00, Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>> > > ping, any thought on this?
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > 2014/1/11 Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org>
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >> Hi,
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> while looking through the open issues for lang, I came across
> > > >>> LANG-823:
> > > >>> > >> StringUtils.split should handle empty strings the same as
> other
> > > >>> content
> > > >>> > >> [1]. The request makes sense to me - the empty string should
> be
> > > >>> handled
> > > >>> > >> like any other content.
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> Then I looked into StringUtils to see how other methods handle
> > the
> > > >>> empty
> > > >>> > >> string and there are more examples of specific handling of the
> > > empty
> > > >>> > >> string. For example the following will return true:
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> StringUtils.containsOnly("", "abc")
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> and it gets even more weird, since
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> StringUtils.containsNone("", "abc")
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> also returns true! How can the same string a the same time
> > _only_
> > > >>> > contain
> > > >>> > >> "abc" and contain none of "abc"?
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> I can not see any reason for this behavior. Why is the empty
> > > string
> > > >>> > >> different from any other string content? I'd like to change
> the
> > > >>> > behavior of
> > > >>> > >> the affected methods, but wanted to get some feedback first.
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> Benedikt
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LANG-823
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >>
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