On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Damjan Jovanovic <damjan....@gmail.com>wrote:

>  an
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Jörg Schaible <joerg.schai...@gmx.de>
> wrote:
> > Hi Damjan,
> >
> > Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Jörg Schaible
> >> <joerg.schai...@scalaris.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi Damjan,
> >>>
> >>> Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
> >>>
> >>> [snip]
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for explanation.
> >>>
> >>>> We would be able to adapt that for Java < 1.7 by swallowing the close
> >>>> exception instead of calling addSuppressed() on the primary exception,
> >>>> but the show stopper is catching and rethrowing the primary exception
> >>>> (Throwable), which javac < 1.7 refuses to compile because it doesn't
> >>>> do "Rethrowing Exceptions with More Inclusive Type Checking"
> >>>> (
> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/language/catch-multiple.html
> ).
> >>>>
> >>>> But this would work and always sets succeeded correctly without
> >>>> catch/re-throw:
> >>>>
> >>>> final InputStream is = factoryMethodThatCanThrow();
> >>>> boolean succeeded = false;
> >>>> try {
> >>>>     try {
> >>>>         is.methodThatCanThrow();
> >>>>     } finally {
> >>>>     }
> >>>>     succeeded = true;
> >>>> } finally {
> >>>>     closeSafely(!succeeded, is);
> >>>> }
> >>>
> >>> I guess the nested try was unintentionally ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Jörg
> >>
> >> Well that actually won't work, because the "succeeded = true;" will be
> >> skipped if there is a "return;" in the inner try.
> >
> > Well, but this has to be done in our code, so we can either change it or
> set
> > "succedded = true" before the return as well.
> >
> > To mimic Java 7, we could also implement:
> >
> > ============= %< ===============
> >  Throwable t = null;
> >  try {
> >  } (catch IOException e) { t = e; throw e; }
> >  // ... another line for each checked exception
> >  } (catch RuntimeException e) { t = e; throw e; }
> >  } (catch Error e) { t = e; throw e; }
> >  } finally {
> >    closeSafely(t != null, is);
> >  }
> > ============= %< ===============
> >
> > but as commented, we have to add a catch for every checked exception,
> > anotehr one for RuntimeException and one for Error. The approach with the
> > succeeded flag seems easier ...
> >
> >> Other than a custom Java compiler, I guess there's no clean way of
> >> doing this in Java < 1.7. There's really only option 2 - with being
> >> careful to always set succeeded correctly on all paths out of the try
> >> block. Almost like releasing memory in C.
> >
> > Yep.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jörg
> >
>
> One thing that amuses me to no end, is that while it's at least a
> solved problem in Java 7, exceptions thrown from C#'s Dispose() method
> in a using() block always swallow the original exception, just like an
> uncaught close() exception in Java's finally :)
> (
> http://blogs.infosupport.com/the-c-using-statement-and-suppressed-exceptions-compared-to-java-7-try-with/
> ).
>
> Anyway I now think the way forward is Java 7. Java 5 was EOL since 3
> November 2009, and Java 6 was EOL since February 2013 (with a last
> update on 6 March 2013). There are ways of getting Java 7 features
> like try-with-resources on Android
> (https://github.com/yareally/Java7-on-Android) and besides Imaging's
> use of java.awt.* packages is a bigger barrier there. Applications and
> JVMs will eventually support Java 7 anyway, and even if they don't, a
> special compiler could produce binaries for earlier versions of Java.
>
> Can I just go change the POM to Java 7 or do we need a vote?
>

I do not think you need a vote. Since the 0.x version is used in the wild,
you might want to poll the user base as to their JRE requirements.

For me, moving to Java 6 is fine. Java 7 is a little more adventurous, a
good thing in general since no [commons] component has made Java 7 a
minimum yet. Might as well test the waters.

Gary



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