Hi Jochen,

Well summarized.
And I think you figured out what the real problem is.

We could work as in Incubator, isn't it?
Having one big umbrella and real subprojects.



JLouis


2013/10/7 Jochen Wiedmann <jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com>

> I believe that the problem is Commons structure. To have one big project
> which such a lot of subprojects blocks building a small community. You're
> not supposed to be a part of the small subproject, but the big community
> "Commons". While the former would be appealing for a newcomer, the latter
> just doesn't work (too many unknown people).
>
> I have no alternatives to offer, but my feeling is we should attempt to
> build smaller, more centralized parts with separate mailing lists, etc.
> Obviously, this might lead to a Jakarta-ization, but there are worse things
> than being split into subprojects.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:30 PM, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com
> >wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > The Apache Commons project seems to be languishing as of late and we
> > need some rejuvenation.  Perhaps we should try to define our mission
> > as a project.  What are our goals?  What do we want to accomplish?
> > Who are our users/customers?  What non-functional qualities do we want
> > our software to exhibit?  How do we want to conduct ourselves?  How
> > often do we want to do releases?  What else?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > James
> >
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Jean-Louis

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