I like the immutability idea. I wonder if there are any guidelines on when
the performance hit because of immutability is high enough to want mutable
objects and synchronization?

-Ajo


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org>wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:07:20 -0500, Phil Steitz wrote:
>
>> On Aug 15, 2013, at 7:31 AM, Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>  On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:40:58 +0100, sebb wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 14 August 2013 23:34, Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At this point, I'd tend to think that creating a copy of trunk in the
>>>>> Commons's "sandbox" part of the repository will be more productive.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why sandbox? Just use a temporary branch in the existing math repo.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Has Evan the permissions to commit there?
>>>
>>
>> No, but same is true of the Sandbox unless he is already an ASF
>> committer.  Sebb's point is that temp branches in svn can be used for
>> this.
>>
>
> Hmm; isn't there a place where no committer could be given privileges
> to write to the repository?
>
>
>> It's also fine to just look at his stuff in GitHub for now, IMO.
>>
>>
> As we discussed in the few last posts, the "stuff" is not complete;
> it is only the realization of the "potentialities" that would it
> worth replacing the currnet code.
>
> Personally, I was expecting this issue to be moved forward, i.e. evolve
> the design until it actually (i.e. in code) meets all the expected
> improvements.
> But I won't have time to fill in all the blanks (Javadoc, formatting,
> naming, unit tests porting) for this to be committed in trunk.
> I was hoping that we can work in real-time with Evan; meaning: he
> would create the bulk of the code, then I (and anyone interested)
> can comment on those aspects that would IMHO need polishing, then
> he could commit additions and modifications.
> So that in the end we can commit top trunk the whole contribution
> without fear that some tedious and time consuming work will be needed
> afterwards.[1]
>
>
> Gilles
>
> [1] Cf. "BOBYQAOptimizer"; (efficient and maintainable) porting is
>     still far from finished even after tens of hours spent on it.
>
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