On 9 March 2012 19:15, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:12 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9 March 2012 19:02, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Ok, so now, it look like the next release will be 1.7 and not 1.6.1
>> because
>> > of the addition of new Nysiis codec.
>>
>> +1, it's significant new code.
>>
>> > Would [CODEC-134 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CODEC-134>] be
>> OK
>> > in 1.7 or should it be for a 2.0?
>>
>> Depends on how it's implemented - does it change the behaviour for
>> end-users?
>>
>
> If implemented [CODEC-134] throws an exception on garbage input. The
> current behavior is garbage-in-garbage-out.
>
> There is an argument for creating a separate "strict" codec...

Yes

Base64Strict would need to have the same public ctors and methods as Base64.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of static methods which create default
instances of Base64().
I suspect it may be impossible to share the encode/decode static
methods, but the other static methods don't create instances, which
would reduce duplication somewhat.


> Gary
>
>
>>
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ok, so where are we on all this and specifically [CODEC-134<
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CODEC-134>
>> >> ]?
>> >>
>> >> It seems that [CODEC-134 <
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CODEC-134>],
>> >> if applied should be for a 1.x, not a 1.x.y because of the change of
>> >> behavior.
>> >>
>> >> If it is not applied, then we need... new classes or more behavior in
>> the
>> >> current class tunnable with something (constructor, config object)
>> >>
>> >> We also need someone to implement it...
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts?
>> >>
>> >> Gary
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Julius Davies <juliusdav...@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Maybe time to add a Base64(int mode) constructor!   Yay, room for 32
>> >>> true/false bitwise fields!
>> >>>
>> >>> Sorry I can't respond inline to the email like a normal person.   Bad
>> >>> habit.
>> >>>
>> >>> yours,
>> >>>
>> >>> Julius
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:40 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > On 6 March 2012 19:33, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> What about passing in a "boolean strict" to the constructor of the
>> >>> codecs?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > What does strict mean? See my comment:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CODEC-95#comment-12986951
>> >>> >
>> >>> > If we do add another parameter (which is not popular with others), at
>> >>> > least let's make sure it's the last one we need to add.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Gary
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Julius Davies <
>> juliusdav...@gmail.com
>> >>> >wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> Hi,
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> CODEC-95 talked about these issues, too (in this case with Base64).
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CODEC-95
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Personally, I would prefer to see some new "strict" classes
>> defined,
>> >>> >>> and to preserve the garbage-in/garbage-out behaviour on the current
>> >>> >>> existing classes.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Here are the new classes I would like to see:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Base32Strict
>> >>> >>> Base32StrictInputStream
>> >>> >>> Base32StrictOutputStream
>> >>> >>> Base64Strict
>> >>> >>> Base64StrictInputStream
>> >>> >>> Base64StrictOutputStream
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> At the same time it does make the API a bit more intimidating and
>> >>> >>> harder to learn, but I think striving for drop-in
>> >>> >>> reverse-compatibility of the existing classes is desirable.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> yours,
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Julius
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Gary Gregory <
>> garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >>> > Hello All,
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > We have a patch for
>> >>> >>> > [CODEC-134<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CODEC-134>]
>> >>> >>> > but it is a change in behavior. In order to avoid a potential
>> nasty
>> >>> >>> > surprise for call sites, we need to decide when something like
>> this
>> >>> can
>> >>> >>> be
>> >>> >>> > done.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > In 1.6 and before, we had garbage-in-garbage-out behavior. With
>> the
>> >>> >>> patch,
>> >>> >>> > you get an exception.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > 1) Is the proposed patch acceptable in the sense that we do not
>> >>> whant
>> >>> >>> GIGO?
>> >>> >>> > Should there instead be a validate method for example?
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > 2) What kind of version is this change in behavior acceptable?
>> >>> >>> Maintenance
>> >>> >>> > (1.6.1), Minor (1.7) or Major (2.0)?
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > Thank you,
>> >>> >>> > Gary
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > [CODEC-134] Base32 would decode some invalid Base32 encoded
>> string
>> >>> into
>> >>> >>> > arbitrary value
>> >>> >>> >
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>> >>> >>> yours,
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Julius Davies
>> >>> >>> 604-222-3310 (Home)
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> $ sudo apt-get install cowsay
>> >>> >>> $ echo "Moo." | cowsay | cowsay -n | cowsay -n
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>> >>> >>>
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>> >>>
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