On Jan 8, 2012, at 7:13, Luc Maisonobe <luc.maison...@free.fr> wrote:

> Le 08/01/2012 12:11, Christian Grobmeier a écrit :
>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jan 7, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
>>>
>>>> Le 07/01/2012 15:36, Gary Gregory a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When can we drop support for M2?
>>>>
>>>> I guess there are still a lot of m2 users, and for the next few years
>>>> there will still be many. At least when I run an "aptitude search maven"
>>>> on my Debian Linux box, I only see maven 2 supported. Getting rid of
>>>> maven 2 is not an option for me now.
>>>
>>
>> Out of curiosity: why can't you run m3 on debian linux? m3 is java,
>> you should be able to download it and place it in your path.
>
> I probably could. I simply did not try yet, and relied only on what was
> provided by the distribution.
>
>> I thought everybody who wants to build commons components himself
>> should be able to install m3 on every plattform with java around. Or
>> do I miss something?
>
> My point is simply that requiring very specific tools or tools versions
> that require specific knowledge or installation should be avoided if
> possible. We don't have the resources to help users installing these
> tools too.

We're talking about java programmers here, not app users. I would hope
that installing java, ant and maven is in our audience's wheelhouse.

Gary

>
> Luc
>
>>
>>> I'm not sure how it is relevant whether commons users use maven 2 or 3. 
>>> Even if we require Maven 3 to build a commons component anyone can still 
>>> use it in a Maven 2 build. They only would require Maven 3 if they actually 
>>> want to build one of our artifacts on their own.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Cheers
>> Christian
>>
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