Hi Adrian,

yes this is what I was thinking when I mentioned the factory method.

Jacopo

On Jan 30, 2011, at 8:06 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:

> From my perspective, if DEFAULT_STRATEGY, EXCEL_STRATEGY, or TDF_STRATEGY are 
> mutable, then copies of them should be returned in a factory method. Ideally, 
> a selector would be passed to a factory method:
> 
> CSVStrategy strategy = CSVStrategy.getInstance(CSVStrategy.DEFAULT_STRATEGY);
> 
> 
> -Adrian
> 
> 
> On 1/29/2011 8:51 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>> Hi Gary,
>> 
>> I initially proposed the change when I noticed the following code in one of 
>> the automated tests of common-csv:
>> 
>>     CSVStrategy strategy = (CSVStrategy)CSVStrategy.DEFAULT_STRATEGY.clone();
>>     strategy.setCommentStart('#');
>>     TestCSVParser parser = new TestCSVParser(new StringReader(code), 
>> strategy);
>> 
>> and I realized the importance, in a calling method that alters the default 
>> settings, of using "clone".
>> But apart from this I don't have real world use cases that describe issues 
>> around this.
>> 
>> Jacopo
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>> 
>>> Are people really using these classes in an MT way?  These seem like the 
>>> kind of classes you do not share between threads. My op only though.
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 12:27, "Simone Tripodi"<simonetrip...@apache.org>  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all guys!!! :)
>>>> I'd suggest to apply Jacopo's suggestion, making strategies' fields as
>>>> final would help classes becoming thread-safe; to fix the issue of
>>>> construction described by Stephen, it would be useful adding builder
>>>> classes (optionally implemented as static inner classes).
>>>> WDYT? HTH, that's just my opinion,
>>>> Simo
>>>> 
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Jacopo Cappellato
>>>> <jacopo.cappell...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>> Thank you Stephen,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I understand this; alternatively we could implement a factory method that 
>>>>> clones DEFAULT_STRATEGY, EXCEL_STRATEGY, TDF_STRATEGY; but I will 
>>>>> definitely postpone any decision, it is not a big deal for me and we can 
>>>>> wait for additional feedback.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jacopo
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 1:16 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Traditionally, many commons projects has taken no position on the
>>>>>> correct way to instantiate objects, whether via constructor or bean
>>>>>> methods. This was to allow construction from tools such as Velocity.
>>>>>> It is also still easier to construct using Spring via bean methods
>>>>>> rather than the constructor.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> These days, immutability and concurrency are more important, so this
>>>>>> change may be applicable, buts its good to understand the history and
>>>>>> wide use cases of classes like these.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 29 January 2011 12:04, Jacopo Cappellato<jacopo.cappell...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> in my opinion all the setter methods should be removed from the 
>>>>>>> CSVStrategy class: in this way the fields will only be set using the 
>>>>>>> constructors and they will become readonly.
>>>>>>> The main issue I see with the current implementation is that a calling 
>>>>>>> method can modify the values of the fields of the following static 
>>>>>>> objects declared in CSVStrategy (changing the default behavior for all 
>>>>>>> subsequent code that uses for example CSVStrategy.DEFAULT_STRATEGY):
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   public static CSVStrategy DEFAULT_STRATEGY = new CSVStrategy(',', 
>>>>>>> '"', COMMENTS_DISABLED, ESCAPE_DISABLED, true,
>>>>>>>                                                                true, 
>>>>>>> false, true);
>>>>>>>   public static CSVStrategy EXCEL_STRATEGY   = new CSVStrategy(',', 
>>>>>>> '"', COMMENTS_DISABLED, ESCAPE_DISABLED, false,
>>>>>>>                                                                false, 
>>>>>>> false, false);
>>>>>>>   public static CSVStrategy TDF_STRATEGY     = new CSVStrategy('\t', 
>>>>>>> '"', COMMENTS_DISABLED, ESCAPE_DISABLED, true,
>>>>>>>                                                                true, 
>>>>>>> false, true);
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jacopo
>>>>>>> 
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