Ralph, We made the change to easily allow projects to select the tar.gz & zip source distribution now and it's being staged for a vote today: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1038139
Once this is released and you update to the new Apache pom, you can select the tar.gz assembly simply by adding this property: <sourceReleaseAssemblyDescriptor>source-release-zip-tar</sourceReleaseAssemblyDescriptor> Then you can get rid of the duplicated assembly.xml setup we added at ApacheCon and the associated assembly plugin config. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/18/10 10:27 AM, Mark Thomas wrote: >> >> On 18/11/2010 15:11, Ralph Goers wrote: >>> >>> It would be good to have a definitive position on this. >> >> The definitive ASF position is: >> - the ASF releases source code >> - the src release should contain everything needed to build >> - binary releases are optional >> - binary releases, if provided, should be derivable from the src release > > +1 - and the actual release is what we put on dist/. > Traditionally we have provided both source and binary distributions there, > archived as gzipped tars and zip files. > > We have never had hard rules on what is required in Commons releases other > than the above (and NOTICE, LICENSE and headers stuff) and I am -1 on adding > them now. I don't even think we should *require* maven artifacts; though > RMs are encouraged to publish them or ask others to help. Again, the actual > release is the zips and tarballs available on the download pages. And in > fact the source is what is actually being released - the binaries are a > convenience for users. >> >> (I know - the above list misses out a bunch of stuff) >> >>> The VFS build includes the javadoc and source jars in the distribution >>> zip, even though there is a separate source distribution zip (the source >>> distribution is complete while the source jar is only suitable for use by an >>> IDE). I'm close to doing another release attempt and would like to know if I >>> need to change that before I do it. >> >> Projects are free to impose additional restrictions on themselves if >> they wish. >> >> From an ASF perspective you are fine. >> >> From a Commons perspective, ENOCLUE. In your shoes, and in the absence >> of a documented Commons policy on exactly what should and should not be >> in a binary distribution, I'd go with whatever you think is best and if >> folks don't like it they are free to provide patches for the next release. > > It is up to the RM what additional jars to put into the binary release. > Obviously, the RM should listen to the community. Since it is dead easy to > include javadoc and sources jars in maven-generated releases, and some users > seem to like them, I personally include them for the releases that I cut. > > Phil >> >> Mark >> >>> >>> Ralph >>> >>> >>> On Nov 18, 2010, at 3:37 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/18/10 5:04 AM, sebb wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 18 November 2010 07:22, Oliver Heger<oliver.he...@oliver-heger.de> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Build works fine with JDK 1.5 on Windows 7. Artifacts look good. >>>>>> >>>>>> The only nitpick I found is that the binary distribution does not >>>>>> contain >>>>>> the source and Javadocs jar. >>>>> >>>>> That's deliberate. >>>>> >>>>> It contains the Javadocs as individual files, so including the javadoc >>>>> jar is just wasted space, and if users want the source they can >>>>> download the source archive. >>>>> >>>>> As far as I was aware, the source and javadocs jars are intended for >>>>> Maven distribution only >>>> >>>> >>>> Personally I am fine not including these jars; but IIUC the reason >>>> people started including them a couple of years back was to make it easier >>>> for users using IDEs that make use of them. >>>> >>>> Not voting yet because I have not tested the release yet. >>>> >>>> Phil >>>>> >>>>>> So +1. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>>> Oliver >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 17.11.2010 02:27, schrieb sebb: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a vote to release Apache Commons NET 2.2 based on RC3. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Changes since RC1 are: >>>>>>> - drop unnecessary jars from binary archive >>>>>>> - include RELEASE-NOTES in binary and source archives >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [ ] +1 release it >>>>>>> [ ] +0 go ahead I don't care >>>>>>> [ ] -1 no, do not release it because... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> tag: >>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/net/tags/NET_2_2_RC3/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> site: http://people.apache.org/~sebb/NET_2_2_RC3/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Archives (Maven and non-Maven) have been uploaded to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecommons-011/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Vote will remain open for at least 72 hours. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
