Le 19/11/2010 03:36, Gary Gregory a écrit :
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 18:34
>> To: Commons Developers List
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons NET 2.2 based on RC3
>>
>> On 19 November 2010 02:07, Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/18/10 8:43 PM, sebb wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 19 November 2010 01:12, Gary Gregory<ggreg...@seagullsoftware.com>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I know we've gone back and forth but I think it would be nice to adopt a
>>>>> convention to include source and javadoc in the bin distro.
>>>>
>>>> OK by me so long as there is only one copy of the javadoc in the bin
>>>> distro.
>>>
>>> Why?  In that case, I would ditch the jar; but some people like that.  Is it
>>> really that big?  I bet [math] is the biggest and I don't recall it adding
>>> that much heft.
>>
>> In the case of NET:
>>
>> 1843782 commons-net-2.2-javadoc.jar
>>  212453 commons-net-2.2.jar
>>  377467 commons-net-2.2-sources.jar
>>
>> The Javadoc is nearly 10 times the size of the binary code.
> 
> I do not think we should base decisions like this on a byte count, relative 
> or not. I like to think of what users do with this stuff.

As it seems adding this stuff in the binary jar is for IDE, isn't the
source jar inclusion sufficient ? IDEs are smart enough to extract the
javadoc themselves from the source. They always display only a small
part (like one method javadoc in a popup window when your mouse hover on
a call to the method), so the complete structured javadoc may be overkill ?

If this is really the case, we could simply add the source as a
compromise between two extreme positions.

Luc


> 
> Gary
> 
>>
>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>>>  From my POV, I get the bin distro to use from an IDE, so I really want
>>>>> the source jar. I used the src distro to fix bugs and add features.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not worth holding back a release but can we enforce whatever the
>>>>> bin/src distro pattern is in the commons parent POM?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary Gregory
>>>>> Senior Software Engineer
>>>>> Rocket Software
>>>>> 3340 Peachtree Road, Suite 820 . Atlanta, GA 30326 . USA
>>>>> Tel: +1.404.760.1560
>>>>> Email: ggreg...@seagullsoftware.com
>>>>> Web: seagull.rocketsoftware.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Oliver Heger [mailto:oliver.he...@oliver-heger.de]
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 23:22
>>>>>> To: Commons Developers List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons NET 2.2 based on RC3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Build works fine with JDK 1.5 on Windows 7. Artifacts look good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only nitpick I found is that the binary distribution does not
>>>>>> contain the source and Javadocs jar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So +1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oliver
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 17.11.2010 02:27, schrieb sebb:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a vote to release Apache Commons NET 2.2 based on RC3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Changes since RC1 are:
>>>>>>> - drop unnecessary jars from binary archive
>>>>>>> - include RELEASE-NOTES in binary and source archives
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [ ] +1 release it
>>>>>>> [ ] +0 go ahead I don't care
>>>>>>> [ ] -1 no, do not release it because...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tag:
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/net/tags/NET_2_2_RC3/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> site: http://people.apache.org/~sebb/NET_2_2_RC3/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Archives (Maven and non-Maven) have been uploaded to:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecommons-011/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vote will remain open for at least 72 hours.
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