On 04/01/2008, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 3, 2008 11:53 AM, simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 19:46 +0000, Niall Pemberton wrote:
> > > On Jan 3, 2008 6:56 PM, Dennis Lundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Niall Pemberton wrote:
> > > > > On Jan 3, 2008 5:00 PM, Dennis Lundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >> I'd prefer if we could keep the section about
> > > > >> maven-remote-resources-plugin that is under pluginManagement. That 
> > > > >> way
> > > > >> we can ensure that those components that decide to use it, all use 
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> same version.
> > > > >
> > > > > Currrently all components have license and notice files so better to
> > > > > wait IMO till we have components wanting to use it first. Given some
> > > > > of the opinions expressed I would be surprised if any adopted it - or
> > > > > if they did that there weren't objections.
> > > >
> > > > Logging already uses it.
> > > >
> > > > The change that I propose does not mean that everyone will automatically
> > > > start using it. That decision is still up to the developers of each
> > > > component. But for those components that use, or decide to start using,
> > > > maven-remote-resources-plugin, it will make their builds more 
> > > > consistent.
> > >
> > > I understand but from the various discussions seems clear to me that
> > > the argument was lost. In the case of Logging I also think it
> > > confusing that it has Notice and License files in svn but it packages
> > > up different versions (i.e. those from the apache jar) in its jar.
> > > Also I just generated the logging jar and the generated Notice file
> > > included the following which IMO is worse than the one in svn:
> > >
> > > This product includes/uses software(s) developed by 'an unknown 
> > > organization'
> > >   - Unnamed - avalon-framework:avalon-framework:jar:4.1.3
> > >   - Unnamed - log4j:log4j:jar:1.2.12
> > >   - Unnamed - logkit:logkit:jar:1.0.1
> > >
> > > So perhaps logging should revert to its svn versions for now until the
> > > argument for the remote resources plugin is won and that plugin works
> > > better.
> >
> > I agree with Niall. I would have voted -1 on the logging release if I
> > had realised that the Notice/License files were auto-generated. I have
> > to kick myself for not having found time to check the logging release.
> >
> > I have seen little positive comment on the remote-resources approach,
> > certainly no consensus. Therefore there is little point in cluttering up
> > the poms with stuff that is not (and IMO should not) be used.
>
> Agreed.
>
> -1 Commons-wide on this. I'm not convinced by the remote resources
> plugin at all.

Agreed.

> Hen
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