As I explained in my email, my vote is conditional with the stated assumption applicable only if this is a technical vote; Daniel advised in his last email that this is a technical decision vote that I assume as changes to source code and releases, therefore I had to vote my -1.
If this is still a non-technical vote (as defined in the bylaws [1], i.e. decision/vote that does not affect changes in source code or releases) and changes are "only limited to the docs" as proposed in the vote then I'm +1. [1] https://cloudstack.apache.org/bylaws.html Regards. ________________________________ From: Paul Angus <p...@angus.uk.com.INVALID> Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 13:31 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> Subject: RE: [VOTE] CentOS 7 KVM binaries The proposal said: ----- "- On CloudStack's Installation Guide > Host KVM Installation[²], we add a section guiding users to install the qemu-kvm-ev binaries, if they are using CentOS 7. - The packages that we will guide users to install will be the latest provided by the official CentOS site[³] (the current latest version is '2.12.0-44.1.el7_8.1.x86_64')." ----- There's no mention of removing support for anything. If there is an intention removing support for existing components as part of this, then I agree completely with Rohit's -1 on it. Kind Regards Paul Angus -----Original Message----- From: Wei ZHOU <ustcweiz...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 7:06 AM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] CentOS 7 KVM binaries oh wait, is there any word saying removing the support for centos7 with stock qemu ? -Wei On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 07:38, Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote: > I had assumed this was a non-technical discussion/vote where the > changes are made in docs on suggested changes to how CloudStack is > deployed and used with CentOS7. I assumed this will follow as a doc PR to the > QIG. > > Changes to docs aren't normally considered technical as per our > project bylaws as they don't impact changes in source code or > releases. Three different PMCs have already advised on this thread > that voting isn't mandatory for this. > > However, assuming Daniel has followed the bylaws and is suggesting > this as a technical change that removes support in source code or > releases, then I oppose such a change. > > -1 (binding/veto) if we're going to technically remove support for > centos7 with stock qemu, that is in source code and > packaging/releases. CentOS7 will EOL until 2024 and stock support should be > supported until then. > > Regards. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Daniel Augusto Veronezi Salvador <dvsalvador...@gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 2:31:21 AM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] CentOS 7 KVM binaries > > Rohit, > > As we are deciding a requirement for deploying ACS + KVM + CentOS 7, I > see it as an important technical decision, that is why I started the > voting thread. The discussion was made via another thread[¹]; > therefore, this vote was created with the intention to summarize the > discussion we had and then to officially approve (or not approve) the idea > discussed. > > Finally, to emphasize, this is the voting thread, intended to reflect > the decision we seem to have agreed upon in the other thread[¹]. I > would kindly ask to avoid polluting this thread with discussions not > related to the voting itself. Furthermore, as already stated, there is > a consensus in the discussion thread; therefore, there is no harm in > giving a +1 here. > > Best regards, > Daniel Salvador > > [¹] https://lists.apache.org/thread/z7s0774n72v4o9dnl140wvm030bxovjd > > On 01/03/2022 16:56, Rohit Yadav wrote: > > (phone issue sent draft accidentally)... where consensus is built > without opposition. Therefore this vote thread isn't necessary. > > > > Refer to project bylaws https://cloudstack.apache.org/bylaws.html > > > > Regards. > > ________________________________ > > From: Daniel Augusto Veronezi Salvador <dvsalvador...@gmail.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 5:08:55 PM > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > > Subject: Re: [VOTE] CentOS 7 KVM binaries > > > > Hi, Andrija and Paul, > > > > This is the vote thread, not the discussion one. The goal of this > > thread is to account votes to verify the agreement of the community > > with the proposed solution that we seem to have in the discussion > > thread. For discussions, please refer to the discussion thread[¹]. > > The goal is to collect +1 and -1 to show the community agreement > > with the proposal that we discussed. > > > > Best regards, > > Daniel Salvador > > > > > > [¹] https://lists.apache.org/thread/z7s0774n72v4o9dnl140wvm030bxovjd > > > > > > On 28/02/2022 20:04, Andrija Panic wrote: > >> What Paul said... > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 at 22:01, Paul Angus <pau...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > >>> A vote really isn't required for this. > >>> > >>> No one disagrees, so just do it. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Kind Regards > >>> > >>> > >>> Paul Angus > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Wei ZHOU <ustcweiz...@gmail.com> > >>> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 4:19 PM > >>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > >>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] CentOS 7 KVM binaries > >>> > >>> +1 (binding) > >>> > >>> Daniel, does this need to be approved by the PMC ? > >>> > >>> -Wei > >>> > >>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 at 17:08, Daniel Salvador > >>> <gutoveron...@apache.org > > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi all, this is the vote thread that emerged from the thread > >>>> "[Discussion] CentOS 7 KVM binaries"[¹]. > >>>> > >>>> As discussed in the thread, users already install (without any > >>>> official guide provided by the community) the qemu-kvm-ev binary > >>>> in their environments to run CloudStack + CentOS + KVM with all features. > >>>> > >>>> With that said, to solve the situation described in the > >>>> discussion thread[¹], I propose the following: > >>>> > >>>> - On CloudStack's Installation Guide > Host KVM Installation[²], > >>>> we add a section guiding users to install the qemu-kvm-ev > >>>> binaries, if they are using CentOS 7. > >>>> - The packages that we will guide users to install will be > >>>> the latest provided by the official CentOS site[³] (the current > >>>> latest version is '2.12.0-44.1.el7_8.1.x86_64'). > >>>> > >>>> For sanity in tallying the vote, can PMC members please be sure > >>>> to indicate "(binding)" with their vote? > >>>> > >>>> [ ] +1 approve > >>>> [ ] +0 no opinion > >>>> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) > >>>> > >>>> If this gets approved, I'll open a PR on CloudStack Documentation > >>>> repository[⁴]. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Best regards, > >>>> Daniel Salvador > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> [¹] > >>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/z7s0774n72v4o9dnl140wvm030bxovjd > >>>> [²] > >>>> > >>>> > http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/en/latest/installguide/hypervisor/kv > >>>> m.html [³] > >>>> > http://mirror.centos.org/centos-7/7/virt/x86_64/kvm-common/Packages/q/ > >>>> [⁴] https://github.com/apache/cloudstack-documentation > >>>> >
