I am very welcome on this , the near future may have almost all out of
IPv4, and will going to dependent on IPv6:
* ipv4 only (default, for backward compatibility all
networks/offerings post-upgrade migrate to this option)
* ipv4-and-ipv6
* ipv6-only (this can be phase 1.b)
Also allow change of IPv6 IP , and Secondary IPv6 as well, especially for
current Shared Network IPv6.
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 8:27 PM Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Thanks for your feedback and ideas, I've gone ahead with discussing them
> with Alex and came up with a PoC/design which can be implemented in the
> following phases:
>
> * Phase1: implement ipv6 support in isolated networks and VPC with
> static routing
> * Phase2: discuss and implement support for dynamic routing (TBD)
>
> For Phase1 here's the high-level proposal:
>
> * IPv6 address management:
> * At the zone level root-admin specifies a /64 public range that
> will be used for VRs, then they can add a /48, or /56 IPv6 range for guest
> networks (to be used by isolated networks and VPC tiers)
> * On creation of any IPv6 enabled isolated network or VPC tier,
> from the /48 or /56 block a /64 network is allocated/used
> * We assume SLAAC and autoconfiguration, no DHCPv6 in the zone
> (discuss: is privacy a concern, can privacy extensions rfc4941 of slaac be
> explored?)
> * Network offerings: root-admin can create new network offerings (with
> VPC too) that specifies a network stack option:
> * ipv4 only (default, for backward compatibility all
> networks/offerings post-upgrade migrate to this option)
> * ipv4-and-ipv6
> * ipv6-only (this can be phase 1.b)
> * A new routing option: static (phase1), dynamic (phase2, with
> multiple sub-options such as ospf/bgp etc...)
> * VR changes:
> * VR gets its guest and public nics set to inet6 auto
> * For each /64 allocated to guest network and VPC tiers, radvd is
> configured to do RA
> * Firewall: a new ipv6 zone/chain is created for ipv6 where ipv6
> firewall rules (ACLs, ingress, egress) are implemented; ACLs between VPC
> tiers are managed/implemented by ipv6 firewall on VR
> * It is assumed that static routes are created on the core/main
> router by the admin or automated using some scripts/tools; for this
> CloudStack will announce events with details of /64 networks and VR's
> public IPv6 address that can be consumed by a rabbitmq/message bus client
> (for example), or a custom cron job or script as part of orchestration.
> (this wouldn't be necessary for dynamic routing bgp with phase2)
> * Guest Networking: With SLAAC, it's easy for CloudStack to calculate
> allocate and use a /64 and determine the IPv6 address of VR nics and guest
> VM nics
> * A user create an isolated network/VPC with an offering that is
> ipv6 enabled
> * A user can manage firewall for the IPv6 address/guest nics;
> there'll be no port forward and LB feature though for IPv6
> * A users can run workloads in the guest VMs that listen on
> publically routable ipv6 addresses
> * Usage/billing etc continue to work, no change needed
>
> Network layout:
>
> [core/ISP router] -> [VR] -> [guest netwokr or VPC tier on a VLAN] ->
> [guest VMs/nics]
> *core/ISP router needs static routes to be added (manually or automated),
> assumes a /48 or /56 configured for the zone
>
> Thoughts, feedback?
>
> Proof-of-concept commentary: here's what I did to test the idea:
>
> * Created an isolated network and deployed a VM in my home lab
> The VR running on KVM has following nics
> eth0 - guest network
> eth1 - link local
> eth2 - public network
>
> * I setup a custom openwrt router on a RPi4 to serve as a toy-core
> router where I create a wan6 IPv6 tunnel using tunnel broker and I got a
> /48 allocated. My configuration looks like:
> /48 - 2001:470:ed36::/48 (allocated by tunnel broker)
> /64 - 2001:470:36:3e2::/64 (default allocated by)
>
> I create a LAN ipv6 (public network for CloudStack VR): at subnet/prefix 0:
> LAN IPv6 address: 2001:470:ed36:0::1/64
> Address mode: SLAAC+stateless DHCP (no dhcpv6)
> *
> *
> In the isolated VR, I enabled ipv6 as:
> net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 0
> net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding = 1
> net.ipv6.conf.all.accept_ra = 1
> net.ipv6.conf.all.accept_redirects = 1
> net.ipv6.conf.all.autoconf = 1
>
> Set up a IPv6 nameserver/dns in /etc/resolve.conf
> And configured the nics:
> echo iface eth0 inet6 auto >> /etc/network/interfaces
> echo iface eth2 inet6 auto >> /etc/network/interfaces
> /etc/init.d/networking restart
> Next, restart ACS isolated network without cleanup to have it reconfigure
> IPv4 nics, firewall, NAT etc
>
> *
> Next, I created a /64 network for the isolated guest network on eth0 of VR
> using radvd:
>
> # cat /etc/radvd.conf
> interface eth0
> {
> AdvSendAdvert on;
> MinRtrAdvInterval 5;
> MaxRtrAdvInterval 15;
> prefix 2001:470:ed36:1::/64
> {
> AdvOnLink on;
> AdvAutonomous on;
> };
> };
> systemctl restart radvd
> All guest VMs nics and VR's eth0 gets IPv6 address (SLAAC) in this
> ...:1::/64 network
> * Finally I added a static route in toy core-router for the new /64
> IPv6 range in the isolated network
> 2001:470:ed36:1::/64 via <public IPv6 address of the VR on eth2> dev
> <local lan nic>
> *
> ... and I enabled firewall rules to allow any traffic to pass for the new
> /64 network
>
> And voila all done! I create a domain AAAA record that points to my guest
> VM IPv6 address a test webserver on
> http://ipv6-isolated-ntwk-demo.yadav.cloud/
>
> (Note: I'll get rid of the tunnel and request a new /48 block after a few
> days, sharing this solely for testing purposes)
>
>
> Regards.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 12:46
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: IPV6 in Isolated/VPC networks
>
>
>
> Op 19-07-2021 om 20:38 schreef Kristaps Cudars:
> > Hi Wido,
> >
> > I assume that flouting ip will not work grate with ingress/egress acl on
> VR.
> >
> > From regular ACS user perspective:
> > I have Instance with dualstack its running web app on 443.
> > I want to swap instances for whatever reason.
> > In case of IPv4 change d-nat rule.
> > In case of IPv6 if flouting IP was not created upfront he will need to
> change dns entry that usually has 24h ttl. Inconvenience degradation in
> experience.
> >
>
> Yes, but, keep in mind that the IP you are using can also be terminated
> on the VR where HAProxy proxies request to the backend VM (could even be
> v4!)
>
> I'm not against DHCPv6, but I have seen many issues with implementing
> it. Therefor I always stick to SLAAC.
>
> > From ACS admin perspective:
> > I don’t want to have these tickets in helpdesk.
> > You needed to create another flouting IP that it would be seamless- will
> not work as answer.
> >
>
> I understand that as well.
>
> Wido
>
> >
> > On 2021/07/19 09:05:54, Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Op 16-07-2021 om 21:46 schreef Kristaps Cudars:
> >>> Hi Wido,
> >>>
> >>> Your proposal is to sacrifice ability to reassign IPv6 to instance,
> have internal domain prefix, and list/db in ACS what IPv6 has been assigned
> to what instance and go with RA and SLAAC. For route signaling to switch
> use BGP/OSPFv3 or manual pre-creation.
> >>>
> >>
> >> You can still list the IPs which have been assigned. You'll know exactly
> >> what IPv6 address a VM has because of the prefix + MAC. Privacy
> >> Extensions need to be disabled in the VM.
> >>
> >> This already works in CloudStack in Shared Networks in this way.
> >>
> >> Using secondary IPs you can always have 'floating' IPv6 addressess.
> >>
> >> Wido
> >>
> >>> Option with RA and managed flag that DHCPv6 is in use to support
> preset information and ability to create route information from ACS is not
> an option as DHCPv6 its failing?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2021/07/16 15:17:42, Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Op 16-07-2021 om 16:42 schreef Hean Seng:
> >>>>> Hi Wido,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In current setup, each Cloudstack have own VR, so in this new IPv6
> subnet
> >>>>> allocation , each VR (which have Frr) will need to have peering with
> ISP
> >>>>> router (and either BGP or Static Route) , and there is 1000
> Acocunts, it
> >>>>> will 1000 BGP session with ISP router , Am I right for this ? or I
> >>>>> understand wrong .
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, that is correct. A /56 would also be sufficient or a /60 which is
> >>>> enough to allocate a few /64 subnets.
> >>>>
> >>>> 1000 BGP connections isn't really a problem for a proper router at the
> >>>> ISP. OSPF(v3) would be better, but as I said that's poorly supported.
> >>>>
> >>>> The ISP could also install 1000 static routes, but that means that the
> >>>> ISP's router needs to have those configured.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://docs.frrouting.org/en/latest/ospf6d.html
> >>>> (While looking up this URL I see that Frr recently put in a lot of
> work
> >>>> in OSPFv3, seems better now)
> >>>>
> >>>>> I understand IPv6 is different then IPv4, and in IPv6 it suppose each
> >>>>> devices have own IP. It just how to realize in easy way.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
>
>
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 8:17 PM Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Op 16-07-2021 om 05:54 schreef Hean Seng:
> >>>>>>> Hi Wido,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My initial thought is not like this, it is the /48 at ISP router,
> and
> >>>>>> /64
> >>>>>>> subnet assign to AdvanceZoneVR, AdvanceZoneVR responsible is
> >>>>>>> distribule IPv6 ip (from the assigned /64 sunet) to VM, and not
> routing
> >>>>>>> the traffic, in the VM that get the IPv6 IP will default route
> to ISP
> >>>>>>> router as gw. It can may be a bridge over via Advancezone-VR.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How would you bridge this? That sounds like NAT?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> IPv6 is meant to be routed. Not to be translated or bridged in any
> way.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The way a made the drawing is exactly how IPv6 should work in a VPC
> >>>>>> environment.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Traffic flows through the VR where it can do firewalling of the
> traffic.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> However, If do as the way described in the drawing, then i suppose
> will
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>>> another kind of virtual router going to introduce , to get hold
> the /48
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>>> this virtual router right ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It can be the same VR. But keep in mind that IPv6 != IPv4.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The VR will get Frr as a new daemon which can talk BGP with the
> upper
> >>>>>> network to route traffic.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> After this, The Advance Zone, NAT's VR will peer with this new
> IPv6 VR
> >>>>>>> for getting the IPv6 /64 prefix ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> IPv4 will be behind NAT, but IPv6 will not be behind NAT.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If do in this way, then I guess you just only need Static route,
> with
> >>>>>>> peering ip both end as one /48 can have a lot of /64 on it. And
> >>>>>> hardware
> >>>>>>> budgeting for new IPv6-VR will become very important, as all
> traffic will
> >>>>>>> need to pass over it .
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Routing or NAT is the same for the VR. You don't need a very beefy
> VR
> >>>>>> for this.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It will be like
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ISP Router ------ > (new IPV6-VR ) ---- > AdvanceZone-VR ----> VM
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Relationship of (new IPv6 VR) and AdvanceZone-VR , may be
> considering on
> >>>>>>> OSPF instead of BGP , otherwise few thousand of AdvanceZone-VR
> wil have
> >>>>>>> few thousand of BGP session. on new-IPv6-VR
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Also, I suppose we cannot do ISP router. -->. Advancezone VR
> direct, ,
> >>>>>>> otherwise ISP router will be full of /64 prefix route either on
> BGP( Many
> >>>>>>> BGP Session) , or Many Static route . If few thousand account,
> ti will
> >>>>>>> be few thousand of BGP session with ISP router or few thousand
> static
> >>>>>> route
> >>>>>>> which is not possible .
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 10:47 PM Wido den Hollander <
> w...@widodh.nl>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> But you still need routing. See the attached PNG (and draw.io
> XML).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You need to route the /48 subnet TO the VR which can then route
> it to
> >>>>>>>> the Virtual Networks behind the VR.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There is no other way then routing with either BGP or a Static
> route.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Wido
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Op 15-07-2021 om 12:39 schreef Hean Seng:
> >>>>>>>>> Or explain like this :
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 1) Cloudstack generate list of /64 subnet from /48 that Network
> admin
> >>>>>>>>> assigned to Cloudstack
> >>>>>>>>> 2) Cloudsack allocated the subnet (that generated from step1) to
> >>>>>> Virtual
> >>>>>>>>> Router, one Virtual Router have one subniet /64
> >>>>>>>>> 3) Virtual Router allocate single IPv6 (within the range of /64
> >>>>>>>>> allocated to VR) to VM
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 6:25 PM Hean Seng <heans...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:heans...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Wido,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I think the /48 is at physical router as gateway , and
> subnet of
> >>>>>> /64
> >>>>>>>>> at VR of Cloudstack. Cloudstack only keep which /48
> prefix and
> >>>>>>>>> vlan information of this /48 to be later split the /64.
> to VR.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And the instances is getting singe IPv6 of /64 IP.
> The VR is
> >>>>>>>>> getting /64. The default gateway shall goes to /48 of
> physical
> >>>>>>>>> router ip . In this case ,does not need any BGP router
> .
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Similar concept as IPv4 :
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> /48 subnet of IPv6 is equivalent to current /24 subnet
> of IPv4
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>> created in Network.
> >>>>>>>>> and /64 of IPv6 is equivalent to single IP of IPv4
> assign to VM.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 5:31 PM Wido den Hollander <
> >>>>>> w...@widodh.nl
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:w...@widodh.nl>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Op 14-07-2021 om 16:44 schreef Hean Seng:
> >>>>>>>>> > Hi
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > I replied in another thread, i think do not need
> implement
> >>>>>>>>> BGP or OSPF,
> >>>>>>>>> > that would be complicated .
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > We only need assign IPv6 's /64 prefix to
> Virtual Router
> >>>>>>>>> (VR) in NAT
> >>>>>>>>> > zone, and the VR responsible to deliver single
> IPv6 to VM
> >>>>>> via
> >>>>>>>>> DHCP6.
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > In VR, you need to have Default IPv6 route to
> Physical
> >>>>>>>>> Router's /48. IP
> >>>>>>>>> > as IPv6 Gateway. Thens should be done .
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > Example :
> >>>>>>>>> > Physical Router Interface
> >>>>>>>>> > IPv6 IP : 2000:aaaa::1/48
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > Cloudstack virtual router :
> 2000:aaaa:200:201::1/64 with
> >>>>>>>>> default ipv6
> >>>>>>>>> > route to router ip 2000:aaaa::1
> >>>>>>>>> > and Clodustack Virtual router dhcp allocate IP to
> VM , and
> >>>>>>>>> VM will have
> >>>>>>>>> > default route to VR. IPv6 2000:aaaa:200:201::1
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > So in cloudstack need to allow user to enter ,
> IPv6
> >>>>>>>>> gwateway , and
> >>>>>>>>> > the /48 Ipv6 prefix , then it will self allocate
> the /64
> >>>>>> ip
> >>>>>>>>> to the VR ,
> >>>>>>>>> > and maintain make sure not ovelap allocation
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> But NAT is truly not the solution with IPv6. IPv6 is
> supposed
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>> routable. In addition you should avoid DHCPv6 as
> much as
> >>>>>>>>> possible as
> >>>>>>>>> that's not really the intended use-case for address
> allocation
> >>>>>>>>> with IPv6.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> In order to route an /48 IPv6 subnet to the VR you
> have a few
> >>>>>>>>> possibilities:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> - Static route from the upperlying routers which are
> outside
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>> CloudStack
> >>>>>>>>> - BGP
> >>>>>>>>> - OSPFv3 (broken in most cases!)
> >>>>>>>>> - DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> BGP and/or Static routes are still the best bet here.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So what you do is that you tell CloudStack that you
> will route
> >>>>>>>>> 2001:db8::/48 to the VR, the VR can then use that to
> split it
> >>>>>> up
> >>>>>>>>> into
> >>>>>>>>> multiple /64 subnets going towards the instances:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> - 2001:db8::/64
> >>>>>>>>> - 2001:db8:1::/64
> >>>>>>>>> - 2001:db8:2::/64
> >>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>> - 2001:db8:f::/64
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And go on.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> In case of BGP you indeed have to tell the VR a few
> things:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> - It's own AS number
> >>>>>>>>> - The peer's address(es)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> With FRR you can simply say:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> neighbor 2001:db8:4fa::179 remote-as external
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The /48 you need to have at the VR anyway in case of
> either a
> >>>>>>>>> static
> >>>>>>>>> route or BGP.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We just need to add a NullRoute on the VR for that
> /48 so that
> >>>>>>>>> traffic
> >>>>>>>>> will not be routed to the upper gateway in case of
> the VR
> >>>>>> can't
> >>>>>>>>> find a
> >>>>>>>>> route.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Wido
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:55 PM Alex Mattioli
> >>>>>>>>> > <alex.matti...@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:alex.matti...@shapeblue.com>
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:alex.matti...@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:alex.matti...@shapeblue.com>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > Hi Wido,
> >>>>>>>>> > That's pretty much in line with our thoughts,
> thanks
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>> the input.
> >>>>>>>>> > I believe we agree on the following points
> then:
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > - FRR with BGP (no OSPF)
> >>>>>>>>> > - Route /48 (or/56) down to the VR
> >>>>>>>>> > - /64 per network
> >>>>>>>>> > - SLACC for IP addressing
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > I believe the next big question is then "on
> which level
> >>>>>>>>> of ACS do we
> >>>>>>>>> > manage AS numbers?". I see two options:
> >>>>>>>>> > 1) Private AS number on a per-zone basis
> >>>>>>>>> > 2) Root Admin assigned AS number on a
> domain/account
> >>>>>> basis
> >>>>>>>>> > 3) End-user driven AS number on a per network
> basis
> >>>>>> (for
> >>>>>>>>> bring your
> >>>>>>>>> > own AS and IP scenario)
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > Thoughts?
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > Cheers
> >>>>>>>>> > Alex
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> > From: Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:w...@widodh.nl> <mailto:w...@widodh.nl
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:w...@widodh.nl>>>
> >>>>>>>>> > Sent: 13 July 2021 15:08
> >>>>>>>>> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org>>;
> >>>>>>>>> > Alex Mattioli <alex.matti...@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:alex.matti...@shapeblue.com>
> >>>>>>>>> > <mailto:alex.matti...@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:alex.matti...@shapeblue.com>>>
> >>>>>>>>> > Cc: Wei Zhou <wei.z...@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:wei.z...@shapeblue.com>
> >>>>>>>>> > <mailto:wei.z...@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:wei.z...@shapeblue.com>>>; Rohit Yadav
> >>>>>>>>> > <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>>>;
> >>>>>>>>> > Gabriel Beims Bräscher <gabr...@pcextreme.nl
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:gabr...@pcextreme.nl>
> >>>>>>>>> > <mailto:gabr...@pcextreme.nl <mailto:
> >>>>>> gabr...@pcextreme.nl
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: IPV6 in Isolated/VPC networks
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > On 7/7/21 1:16 PM, Alex Mattioli wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> > > Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>> > > @Wei Zhou<mailto:wei.z...@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:wei.z...@shapeblue.com>
> >>>>>>>>> > <mailto:wei.z...@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:wei.z...@shapeblue.com>>> @Rohit
> >>>>>>>>> > Yadav<mailto:rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
> >>>>>>>>> > <mailto:rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>>> and myself are
> >>>>>>>>> investigating how
> >>>>>>>>> > to enable IPV6 support on Isolated and VPC
> networks and
> >>>>>>>>> would like
> >>>>>>>>> > your input on it.
> >>>>>>>>> > > At the moment we are looking at
> implementing FRR
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>> BGP (and
> >>>>>>>>> > possibly OSPF) on the ACS VR.
> >>>>>>>>> > >
> >>>>>>>>> > > We are looking for requirements,
> recommendations,
> >>>>>>>>> ideas, rants,
> >>>>>>>>> > etc...etc...
> >>>>>>>>> > >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > Ok! Here we go.
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > I think that you mean that the VR will
> actually route
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> IPv6
> >>>>>>>>> > traffic and for that you need to have a way
> of getting
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>> subnet
> >>>>>>>>> > routed to the VR.
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > BGP is probably you best bet here. Although
> OSPFv3
> >>>>>>>>> technically
> >>>>>>>>> > supports this it is very badly implemented in
> Frr for
> >>>>>>>>> example.
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > Now FRR is a very good router and one of the
> fancy
> >>>>>>>>> features it
> >>>>>>>>> > supports is BGP Unnumered. This allows for
> auto
> >>>>>>>>> configuration of BGP
> >>>>>>>>> > over a L2 network when both sides are sending
> Router
> >>>>>>>>> Advertisements.
> >>>>>>>>> > This is very easy for flexible BGP
> configurations where
> >>>>>>>>> both sides
> >>>>>>>>> > have dynamic IPs.
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > What you want to do is that you get a /56,
> /48 or
> >>>>>>>>> something which is
> >>>>>>>>> > >/64 bits routed to the VR.
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > Now you can sub-segment this into separate
> /64 subnets.
> >>>>>>>>> You don't
> >>>>>>>>> > want to go smaller then a /64 is that
> prevents you from
> >>>>>>>>> using SLAAC
> >>>>>>>>> > for IPv6 address configuration. This is how
> it works
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>> Shared
> >>>>>>>>> > Networks now in Basic and Advanced Zones.
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > FRR can now also send out the Router
> Advertisements on
> >>>>>>>>> the downlinks
> >>>>>>>>> > sending out:
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > - DNS servers
> >>>>>>>>> > - DNS domain
> >>>>>>>>> > - Prefix (/64) to be used
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > There is no need for DHCPv6. You can
> calculate the IPv6
> >>>>>>>>> address the
> >>>>>>>>> > VM will obtain by using the MAC and the
> prefix.
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > So in short:
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > - Using BGP you routed a /48 to the VR
> >>>>>>>>> > - Now you split this into /64 subnets towards
> the
> >>>>>>>>> isolated networks
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > Wido
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > > Alex Mattioli
> >>>>>>>>> > >
> >>>>>>>>> > >
> >>>>>>>>> > >
> >>>>>>>>> > >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > --
> >>>>>>>>> > Regards,
> >>>>>>>>> > Hean Seng
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>> Hean Seng
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>> Hean Seng
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
--
Regards,
Hean Seng
