My hope is that Fermilab will announce it is reversing its decision to discontinue Scientific Linux as of RHEL 7. It was only about a year ago that they decided to stop the project and contribute to CentOS instead. When Centos was having organizational issues a few years ago I switched to Scientific Linux for pretty much the whole RHEL 6 cycle. Having a distro shepherded by Fermilab with contributions from other major labs would ensure stability and operational decisions that are not profit motivated. Their board plans to issue a statement on the Centos issue next month.

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On 12/24/20 9:31 AM, Sven Vogel wrote:
Hi Giles, hi Daan,

Thanks for the discussion Giles. It was a matter of time that since Red hat was 
bought from IBM that they go another way.

I saw the discussion about the possible successor Rocky but I think the next 
month will make it more clear where the market is leading to.

For us it’s important to support independent of CentOS the commercial 
distribution of RHEL. Red Hat is one of the largest supporter of KVM and so its 
strategic to support RHEL further in the future of CloudStack.

After some time and if it’s  more clear what the future of CentOS will be and 
the possible successor I think we should think about to change this in the 
community.

I would wait until that stage and observe the situation and then make a 
decision in the community.

Cheers and merry Christmas.

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Von: Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>
Gesendet: Thursday, December 24, 2020 3:02:36 PM
An: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>; Giles Sirett <giles.sir...@shapeblue.com>
Betreff: Re: [discuss] CentOS announcement

thanks for starting this discussion thread @Giles Sirett
<giles.sir...@shapeblue.com> . Personally I'd like to not "vote" on
anything. Especially not at this moment. I think a discussion is good
though. My personal (and most definitely not my business) take on this is
to go for fedora. It is unlikely it will find business traction but it does
appear to be the most stable distribution funnily enough, especially in the
redhat/rpm-verse. I hope we can witness a clear trend over the next twelve
months to make a kind of final decision by the end of next year.
#excitingtimes

On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 12:02 PM Giles Sirett <giles.sir...@shapeblue.com>
wrote:

You may have seen this news recently announced by Redhat and the CentOS
project.  [1] [2]





At this early stage, it looks like   CentOS Stream will not provide the
stability that we probably expect



So, what Linux distro should we be targeting for MS and  KVM agents going
forward  ?  I guess this is a decision that we have to make as a project.



CentOS 7 will receive full updates only until the year end (Q4 2020) and
maintenance updates will continue until 30 June 2024, so I don't think we
need to rush this decision. Also, I think that there will be a lot of
emerging competitors to fill the void, like the recent announcement of
Rocky. [3] gives a good summary of current choices



  I guess, actually, the question is: *when* should we aim to make this
decision ?  - the advantage of leaving it is we are able to see what others
settle on.




[1] Red Hat makes drastic changes to CentOS, leaves users fuming |
TechRadar<
https://www.techradar.com/news/red-hat-makes-drastic-changes-to-centos-leaves-users-fuming
[2] CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream - Blog.CentOS.org<
https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/>
[3] About/Product - CentOS Wiki<https://wiki.centos.org/About/Product>
[4] Where CentOS Linux users can go from here | ZDNet<
https://www.zdnet.com/article/where-centos-linux-users-can-go-from-here/>

Kind regards
Giles


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