Hi Rohit and community,

I am ok with deprecating ubuntu 16.04 support in CloudStack 4.15.

It is very important to document the upgrade path from ubuntu
16.04/python2/old cloudstack versions to ubuntu 20.04/python3/cloudstack
4.15. We probably need to modify cloudstack 4.14 to support ubuntu 20.04 as
a bridge, if we do not stop vms.

   1.  ubuntu 16.04/python2/old cloudstack versions , upgrade to
   2.  ubuntu 16.04/python2/cloudstack 4.14, then upgrade to
   3.  ubuntu 20.04/python2/cloudstack 4.14 (and live migrate vms), then
   upgrade to
   4.  ubuntu 20.04/python3/cloudstack 4.15

any other workaround ?

Kind regards,
Wei

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 at 11:47, Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> Ubuntu 16.04 does not have JRE11 package as well as some packages for
> Python3 such as python3-distutils:
>
> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&keywords=python3-distutils&searchon=names
>
> The Java 11 JRE requirement was introduced starting the 4.14.0.0 release
> and in the release notes workaround for JRE installation was mentioned [0].
> With master/4.15 support for Python3 was added for KVM hosts and the
> management server but a critical issue [1] was recently identified due to
> which cloudstack-agent would fail installation on the older Ubuntu 16.04
> due to missing python3-distutil (and other) dependencies.
>
> Ubuntu 16.04 will reach the end of standard support by April 2021 [2][3],
> and the next 4.15 release will add support for Ubuntu 20.04 [4][5] - so
> should we:
>
> (a) remove Ubuntu 16.04 from our list of supported distribution (for KVM
> host and management server) in 4.15?
> (b) (if there are users using 16.04) document workaround for
> installation/upgrade in the 4.15 release/upgrade notes?
>
> Thoughts, feedback? Thanks.
>
> [0]
> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/en/4.14.0.0/upgrading/upgrade/upgrade-4.13.html#java-version-requirement
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/4280
>
> [2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
>
> [3]
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2016-April/000207.html
>
> [4] Wei's Ubuntu 20.04 PR https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/4069
>
> [5] Wei's Ubuntu 20.04 PR included with support for CentOS8 PR
> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/4068
>
>
> Regards.
>
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