If Syed can't fill in the blanks sufficiently for you when you talk to him
later today, let me know and I will set up a call and loop in the team on
our side who have more details and we can walk through our experience and
knowledge on the topic.

Cheers,

*Will Stevens*
Chief Technology Officer
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 9:30 AM Jean-Francois Nadeau <the.jfnad...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Will,
>
> I remember having the discussion with Pierre-Luc on his use of Swift for
> templates.  I was curious about the differences on S3 vs Swift for SS since
> looking at the CS UI when it comes to setting up an S3 image store... the
> NFS staging is optional.  And this make sense to me if your object storage
> is fast and accessible locally,  why the need for staging/caching.    The
> documentation could mention if it is possible to use S3 secondary and
> nothing else,  starting with if SSVM templates can be uploaded to a
> bucket.    I will certainly ask Syed later today :)
>
> best
>
> Jfn
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 6:59 AM Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey JF,
> > We use the Swift object store as the storage backend for secondary
> > storage.  I have not tried the S3 integration, but the last time I looked
> > at the code for this (admittedly, a long time ago) the Swift and s3 logic
> > was more intertwined than I liked. The CloudOps/cloud.ca team had to do
> a
> > lot of work to get the Swift integration to a reasonable working state. I
> > believe all of our changes have been upstreamed quite some time ago. I
> > don't know if anyone is doing this for the S3 implementation.
> >
> > I can't speak to the S3 implementation because I have not looked at it
> in a
> > very long time, but the Swift implementation requires a "temporary NFS
> > staging area" that essentially acts kind of like a buffer between the
> > object store and primary storage when templates and such are used by the
> > hosts.
> >
> > I think Pierre-Luc and Syed have a clearer picture of all the moving
> > pieces, but that is a quick summary of what I know without digging in.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Will
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 10:24 PM Jean-Francois Nadeau <
> > the.jfnad...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > >
> > > I was wondering if it was common or even recommended to use an S3
> > > compatible storage system as the only secondary storage provider ?
> > >
> > > The environment is 4.11.3.0 with KVM (Centos 7.6),  and our tier1
> storage
> > > solution also provides an S3 compatible object store (apparently Minio
> > > under the hood).
> > >
> > > I have always used NFS to install the SSVM templates and the install
> > script
> > > (cloud-install-sys-tmplt) only takes a mount point.  How, if possible,
> > > would I proceed with S3 only storage ?
> > >
> > > best,
> > >
> > > Jean-Francois
> > >
> >
>

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