Ya Mike, this is the way we have done it in the past and it works well. Anyone interested can join us, and we will setup a call to review the talks on a specific date. Then go from there.
Do we know what the second day will be yet? I have to try to figure out a venue (hackathon?) for a third day, but I need a date. Will On Sat, Mar 31, 2018, 7:16 PM Tutkowski, Mike, <mike.tutkow...@netapp.com> wrote: > Hi Ron, > > From what I understand, the CloudStack proposals will be mixed in with all > of the ApacheCon proposals. > > In the past when I’ve participated in these CloudStack panels to review > proposals, we had to compare each proposal against the others to arrive at > a balance of topics (i.e. not all networking focused, not all XenServer > focused, etc.) and to suggest improvements for proposals that we did not > accept for other reasons. > > From what I understand (but Giles can comment further on this), we have a > track at ApacheCon and will need to fill it with X number of presentations. > To do this, it seems like a CloudStack-focused panel would be a good > approach, but I am definitely open to another approach. We don’t want to > exclude anyone (in or out of the CloudStack Community) who might like to > provide input. Anyone who is interested would, of course, be free to join > us in combing through the proposals. > > We don’t need to get started on this right away. The CFP just closed > yesterday. Let’s wait for feedback from Giles (who is currently on > vacation) and go from there. > > Thanks! > Mike > > On 3/31/18, 6:59 AM, "Ron Wheeler" <rwhee...@artifact-software.com> wrote: > > Is this a real concern? > Why would a large number of Apache contributors who are not interested > in Cloudstack (enough to outvote those "part of the Cloudstack > community") get involved as reviewers > > Reviewing involves some commitment of time so I am hard pressed to > guess > why some Apache contributor would volunteer to do the work in order to > veto a presentation that they have not yet seen or have no interest in > seeing. > > Are we guaranteed a fixed number of hours of presentations or is the > review process part of the allocation of overall time? > > On what basis can some group veto a presentation? > That would seem to be a very strong action and I would hope that it > requires a strong reason. > > OTOH if a large??? number of Apache contributors (regardless of their > affiliation) say that a presentation has serious issues or very limited > interest, that would seem to be a red flag that the presentation > requires improvement or needs to be dropped in favour of another > Cloudstack presentation, if it can not be fixed. > > We should also be aware that this is an opportunity to "market" > Cloudstack to the broader Apache community. > Outside reviewers might have valuable input into how presentations can > attract new adopters or be clearer to the broader DevOps community. > We also need to remember that we do have an active community and other > opportunities during the year to present presentations that do not get > selected for this conference. > > If their is a real fear that a lot of "outsiders" are going to disrupt > the review process, a more reasonable response would seem to be to get > more reviewers from the community. > > I have volunteered already. > > Ron > > On 30/03/2018 11:11 PM, Tutkowski, Mike wrote: > > Hi Rafael, > > > > It’s a little bit tricky in our particular situation. Allow me to > explain: > > > > As you are likely aware, the CloudStack Collaboration Conference > will be held as a track in the larger ApacheCon conference in Montreal this > coming September. > > > > It is true, as you say, that anyone who wishes to do so can > contribute to reviewing the CFP for ApacheCon. > > > > What is a bit of a concern, however, is that we might get certain > CloudStack CFP proposals vetoed by people who are not, per se, a part of > our community. > > > > That being the case, I have contacted the organizers for ApacheCon > to see if there is some way we can section off the CloudStack CFP from the > larger ApacheCon CFP for review purposes. > > > > Assuming we can do this, the panel that I am proposing here would > handle this review task. > > > > I hope that helps clarify the situation. > > > > Thanks! > > Mike > > > > On 3/30/18, 8:38 AM, "Rafael Weingärtner" < > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Are we going to have a separated review process? > > > > I thought anybody could go here [1] and apply for a reviewer > position and > > start reviewing. Well, that is what I did. I have already > reviewed some > > CloudStack proposals (of course I did not review mines). After > asking to > > review presentations, Rich has giving me access to the system. > I thought > > everybody interest in helping was going to do the same. > > > > [1] > https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-north-america-2018 > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Swen - swen.io <m...@swen.io> > wrote: > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > > > congrats! > > > > > > I can help sort through presentations. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Swen > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > Von: Tutkowski, Mike [mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com] > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2018 21:40 > > > An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; us...@cloudstack.apache.org > > > Betreff: Committee to Sort through CCC Presentation > Submissions > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > As you may be aware, this coming September in Montreal, the > CloudStack > > > Community will be hosting the CloudStack Collaboration > Conference: > > > > > > http://ca.cloudstackcollab.org/ > > > > > > Even though the event is six months away, we are on a tight > schedule with > > > regards to the Call For Participation (CFP): > > > > > > https://www.apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html > > > > > > If you are interested in submitting a talk, please do so > before March 30th. > > > > > > That being said, as usual, we will have need of a small > committee to sort > > > through these presentation submissions. > > > > > > If you are interested in helping out in this process, please > reply to this > > > message. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rafael Weingärtner > > > > > > -- > Ron Wheeler > President > Artifact Software Inc > email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com > skype: ronaldmwheeler > phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 > > > >
