Hi Marc-Aurèle, Personally, my utopia would be to be able to pass async jobs between mgmt. servers. So rather than waiting in indeterminate time for a snapshot to complete, monitoring the job is passed to another management server.
I would LOVE that something like Zookeeper monitored the state of the mgmt. servers, so that 'other' management servers could take over the async jobs in the (unlikely) event that a management server becomes unavailable. Kind regards, Paul Angus paul.an...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue -----Original Message----- From: Marc-Aurèle Brothier [mailto:ma...@exoscale.ch] Sent: 18 December 2017 13:56 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: [DISCUSS] Management server (pre-)shutdown to avoid killing jobs Hi everyone, Another point, another thread. Currently when shutting down a management server, despite all the "stop()" method not being called as far as I know, the server could be in the middle of processing an async job task. It will lead to a failed job since the response won't be delivered to the correct management server even though the job might have succeed on the agent. To overcome this limitation due to our weekly production upgrades, we added a pre-shutdown mechanism which works along side HA-proxy. The management server keeps a eye onto a file "lb-agent" in which some keywords can be written following the HA proxy guide ( https://cbonte.github.io/haproxy-dconv/1.9/configuration.html#5.2-agent-check). When it finds "maint", "stopped" or "drain", it stops those threads: - AsyncJobManager._heartbeatScheduler: responsible to fetch and start execution of AsyncJobs - AlertManagerImpl._timer: responsible to send capacity check commands - StatsCollector._executor: responsible to schedule stats command Then the management server stops most of its scheduled tasks. The correct thing to do before shutting down the server would be to send "rebalance/reconnect" commands to all agents connected on that management server to ensure that commands won't go through this server at all. Here, HA-proxy is responsible to stop sending API requests to the corresponding server with the help of this local agent check. In case you want to cancel the maintenance shutdown, you could write "up/ready" in the file and the different schedulers will be restarted. This is really more a change for operation around CS for people doing live upgrade on a regular basis, so I'm unsure if the community would want such a change in the code base. It goes a bit in the opposite direction of the change for removing the need of HA-proxy https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2309 If there is enough positive feedback for such a change, I will port them to match with the upstream branch in a PR. Kind regards, Marc-Aurèle