I am all for the change, but urge you to consider this: - past releases are still in use and will be affected - it would be good to decouple the release of the management server from the release of the templates. So, let's say there is a new 'SHELLACK' bug in bash which needs an update to the systemvm template -- today that requires a new CloudStack release to address it. Instead, it would be nice if you could just update the systemvm and builtin templates and ask people to re-run some scripts.
A solution that would automate something like this: https://shankerbalan.net/blog/seed-cloudstack-templates-offline/ would solve for most cases. Instead of download.cloud.com in the blog post, you would have <mirror list>. On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 5:56 AM, John Burwell <john.burw...@shapeblue.com> wrote: > Chiradeep, > > I am +1 to using a mirror list downloaded from > downloads.cloudstack.apache.org via https only (i.e. > https://downloads.cloudstack.apache.org/mirror.lst). This approach seems > to be a common approach employed by other Apache projects that need to > provided downloadable assets. Therefore, I would imagine it would be > something ASF Infra would be able to support. > > It also seems like we should have a hashes of a assets hosted on > downloads.cloudstack.apache.org in order to allow users to verify that > mirror has not been corrupted. > > Anyone opposed to targeting this change for the next round of releases -- > 4.9.2.0, 4.10.1.0, and 4.11.0.0? > > Thanks, > -John > > > john.burw...@shapeblue.com > www.shapeblue.com > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London VA WC2N 4HSUK > @shapeblue > > > > > On Nov 1, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <chirade...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I believe that there is already a new site, but the software still points > > to download.cloud.com. There was also discussion about > > - building mirror sites instead of a SPOF site > > - eliminating the automatic download of templates and updating the > > documentation on use of offline templates. > > Older releases may not be changed, but users need to be notified and > > documentation needs to be updated and publicized. > > > > Thread here: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cloudstack-dev/ > 201605.mbox/thread?4 > > > > We should ask for the download.cloud.com site to be taken offline for 24 > > hours to see how many people scream, perhaps then the community will > swing > > into action? > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Rajesh Ramchandani < > > rajesh.ramchand...@accelerite.com> wrote: > > > >> Are we looking for new server to host this site? > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 12:46 PM -0700, "Chiradeep Vittal" < > >> chirade...@gmail.com<mailto:chirade...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >> Bumping this. Any progress on this? download.cloud.com is not an Apache > >> property and is subject to the whims of its owner (Citrix). > >> > >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Chiradeep Vittal <chirade...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Any progress on this? There's nearly a 100K downloads of systemvm > >>> templates from download.cloud.com per month. Would be a shame to leave > >>> these folks stranded. > >>> > >>> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 4:49 AM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> +1. we need to figure out the way forward, but this needs to be done > >>>> 'right' not just 'fast'. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com > >>>> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com> > >>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK > >>>> @shapeblue > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Raja Pullela [mailto:raja.pull...@accelerite.com] > >>>> Sent: 31 May 2016 07:33 > >>>> To: CloudStack Dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > >>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from download.cloud.com > >>>> > >>>> +1, hope we will be able to discuss this at the Collab this week and > >>>> decide on the next steps. > >>>> > >>>> best, > >>>> Raja Pullela > >>>> Senior Manager, Product Development > >>>> Accelerate, > >>>> 2055,Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA > >>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010, www.accelerite.com,@accelerite<http://www. > >> accelerite.com,@accelerite> > >>>> > >>>>> On May 31, 2016, at 10:23 AM, Chiradeep Vittal <chirade...@gmail.com > > > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I hope this gets discussed during the CloudStack Collab over the next > >>>>> few days. Again, I'd urge everybody to consider: "what if > >>>>> download.cloud.com went away next week". Waiting till some > >>>>> hypothetical last date only means that we will scramble a week before > >>>> that last date. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Chiradeep Vittal > >>>>> <chirade...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Yes, the mirror site would be on github or apache.org > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Step 6 in the install guide would have instructions like: > >>>>>> a. Install System VM Templates: > >>>>>> <here, cloud-install-sys-tmplt has been modified to use the mirror > >>>>>> list> b. Installing other templates cloud-install-tmplt > >>>>>>> enter OS (linux only) > >>>>>>> Ubuntu 16.04 > >>>>>> ....Installing... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Or, step (b) could generate a cloudmonkey script. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Will Stevens < > wstev...@cloudops.com > >>> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cant we just host the mirror list in apache.org and then actually > >>>>>>> host the mirrors in different places around the world? A company > >>>>>>> could sponsor the few bucks a month for AWS and have one of the > >>>>>>> mirrors be in AWS and the mirror list in apache.org would just be > >>>>>>> updated to add the AWS mirror. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Isn't that basically what we are proposing here? The ability to > >>>>>>> have different mirrors with the 'official' endpoint being in an > >>>>>>> apache.org endpoint to list the mirrors? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *Will STEVENS* > >>>>>>> Lead Developer > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts > >>>>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w cloudops.com *|* > >>>>>>> tw @CloudOps_ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Daan Hoogland > >>>>>>> <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is there no way, within foundation bylaws, to host this somewhere > >>>>>>>> on apache.org? we are using peoples wibesites for tests as well, > >>>>>>>> aren't > >>>>>>> we. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > >>>>>>>> rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> We could host a mirror here. We are in South America, Brazil. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Chiradeep Vittal < > >>>>>>> chirade...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I was proposing a new S3 bucket earlier > >>>>>>>>>> (templates.cloudstack.org), > >>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>> realized that someone needs to own the account. There is no > legal > >>>>>>>> entity > >>>>>>>>>> for Apache CloudStack (except the ASF) that can enter into a > >>>>>>> contract > >>>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>> AWS (even if it is for a few bucks a month). To make this work, > >>>>>>>>>> alternatives: > >>>>>>>>>> (1) ASF Infra creates this bucket and IAM keys to the PMC to > >>>>>>> operate > >>>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>>> bucket. ACS users might want to make targeted donations to > >>>>>>>>>> support > >>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>>> bucket, but I don't believe that it is possible. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> (2) Cloudstack.org gets registered as a (non-profit?) entity etc > >>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> ACS > >>>>>>>>>> users make donations to this entity. PMC has control over the > >>>>>>> bucket. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> A mirror list and a python script (e.g., [1]) sounds like a much > >>>>>>> better > >>>>>>>>>> idea :) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Raise of hands: > >>>>>>>>>> Who is willing to host a mirror of systemvm templates and > default > >>>>>>>>>> templates. I figure we need at least 5, preferably all over the > >>>>>>> world, > >>>>>>>>>> especially in East Asia. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [1] > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://code.activestate.com/recipes/284631-a-python- > >> script-to-test-d > >>>>>>> ownload-mirrors/ > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Chiradeep Vittal < > >>>>>>>> chirade...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Agree with Daan : we shouldn't be pushing these ancient > insecure > >>>>>>>>>>> templates! > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Chiradeep Vittal < > >>>>>>>>> chirade...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> :) According to Raja, there is some time before > >>>>>>> download.cloud.com > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>> doomed. Let's pretend that date is Jan 1 2017. Now pretend > that > >>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> Dec > >>>>>>>>>>>> 25, 2016 and we're still debating mirror list vs steps and > what > >>>>>>> not. > >>>>>>>>>> Now, > >>>>>>>>>>>> just change the 2017 to 2016 and re-consider. We need this > done > >>>>>>>>>> yesterday! > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:53 AM, Daan Hoogland < > >>>>>>>>> daan.hoogl...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> send by tablet, no warranties in existence On 20 May 2016 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:29, "Paul Angus" <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a -1 on adding another step to the installation process. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with Will, it will only be another barrier to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform > >>>>>>>>>>>>> adoption. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The SSVM going and downloading the built-in template is a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> good > >>>>>>>>>>>>> milestone > >>>>>>>>>>>>> in a CloudStack build. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be honest the mgmt. server should be able to go get the > >>>>>>>> template > >>>>>>>>>>>>> itself if required rather than making it a user installation > >>>>>>> step. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> great idea, looking forward to your PR. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 May 2016 23:06 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from > >>>>>>>> download.cloud.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds good, so if we put both sections together the worry > is > >>>>>>>> over. > >>>>>>>>>> acs > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is a complex system and requires a lot of reading so let''s > >>>>>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>> put > >>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>>>> in a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> different section. would be duplicate code anyhow. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Chiradeep Vittal < > >>>>>>>>>>>>> chirade...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you have to define "worry" :) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing an almost identical step to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack- > >> installation/e > >>>>>>> n/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.6/management-server/#prepare-the-system-vm-template > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they can do that, then it is not a stretch to assume > they > >>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download the default template in a similar manner. The > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "cloud-install-default-template" (proposed) script can do > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> mirror > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checking etc. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Will Stevens < > >>>>>>>>>> wstev...@cloudops.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I definitely agree with this. I don't think people doing > >>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>> PoC > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to worry about getting a template installed on first > >>>>>>> setup. > >>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>>>>> think > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is a basic feature if we want platform adoption. > >>>>>>>> Getting > >>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first boot process from download to first VM launched > >>>>>>> should > >>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smooth as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Will STEVENS* > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lead Developer > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w > >>>>>>>> cloudops.com > >>>>>>>>>> *|* > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tw @CloudOps_ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Daan Hoogland > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chiradeep, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes sense not to have this old default very > >>>>>>> insecure > >>>>>>>>> guest > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> template > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still be downloaded but it would be nice to have some > >>>>>>> kind > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meta-data pointing to the latest version of an > >>>>>>> acceptable > >>>>>>>>>>>>> template > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (symlink) for trial installs so PoCcers are swiftly on > >>>>>>>> their > >>>>>>>>>> way. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you agree? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Chiradeep Vittal < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chirade...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I meant the auto-download of default templates, not > >>>>>>>>> systemvm. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that the initial systemvm template has to be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hand-downloaded > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are a single hypervisor cloud, then that is all > >>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Pierre-Luc Dion < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pd...@cloudops.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would be -1 about disabling the autodownload of > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> systemvm > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> template, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has this should be simplify deployment of a > >>>>>>> cloudstack > >>>>>>>>>>>>> system. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> although, the download URL should be a configurable > >>>>>>>>> value, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property file or thru the API somehow or via a > >>>>>>>>> pre-install > >>>>>>>>>>>>> command. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really like download.cloudstack.org + mirror. > >>>>>>> I'm > >>>>>>>>>> looking > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DNS entry: builds.cloudstack.org for the new > >>>>>>> Jenkins > >>>>>>>>> and I > >>>>>>>>>>>>> got > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no objections on using the cloudstack.org domain > >>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>>> community > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> services > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty sure we would be ok to use > >>>>>>>>> download.cloudstack.org, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting this up? on the current webserver of our > >>>>>>>> website? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could we > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PL > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Giles Sirett < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sir...@shapeblue.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Erik > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree on the existing users - not the end of the > >>>>>>>>> world. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> We > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release a tiny patch to update the DB records > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The piece that we need to be really careful with > >>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I've > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded cloudstack thing for the first time" > >>>>>>>>> scenario > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But - there seems to be plenty of good ideas > >>>>>>> flowing > >>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Giles > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sir...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com< > >> http://www.shapeblue.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N > >>>>>>> 4HSUK > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Erik Weber [mailto:terbol...@gmail.com] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 May 2016 09:32 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a user (with old ACS installations) I'd say > >>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> troublesome, this is easily fixed by updating the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate db > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> records. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We should ensure that we have some good posts > >>>>>>>>> discovered > >>>>>>>>>> by > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other search engines, so that when somebody > >>>>>>> running > >>>>>>>> old > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installations > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hit > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this issue they find the workaround. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a lot of time to reach out to users and > >>>>>>>> inform > >>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fix necessary. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Erik > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Giles Sirett < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sir...@shapeblue.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a MAJOR problem and needs to be figured > >>>>>>> out > >>>>>>>>>>>>> before > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download site is removed - @Raja - have Citrix > >>>>>>>>>> committed > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another year ? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is my understanding that Cloudstack relies on > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build/startup and then periodically if people do > >>>>>>>>> things > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zone > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, users environments aren't going to stop if > >>>>>>> its > >>>>>>>>>>>>> pulled, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a able to build/install cloudstack and > >>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>> may > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when users make config changes > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is, for new builds, its hard coded : > >>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>>>>>> start > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sec > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Storage VM, CloudStack will try to download the > >>>>>>>> built > >>>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> template > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My understanding is that its simple db change > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> make > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once an > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is running (exisiting users) but *may* require a > >>>>>>>> code > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial install > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #notideal > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really, this should be maintained by ASF/ the > >>>>>>>> project > >>>>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> key > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software working, however my understanding is it > >>>>>>>>>> involves > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binaries > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASF is never keen on (and may be some 3rd party > >>>>>>>>>> binaries) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - so > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wont happen > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apt-get is controlled by Wido et al (for which > >>>>>>> we > >>>>>>>> all > >>>>>>>>>> owe > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> massive > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks) - but you are right, it is a 3rd party > >>>>>>>>>>>>> dependency > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arguably a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SPOF. But, if ASF wont host binaries, we're > >>>>>>> always > >>>>>>>>>> going > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we could patch the code to point somewhere > >>>>>>>> else - > >>>>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definition its got to be something maintained > >>>>>>> by a > >>>>>>>>> 3rd > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We had this debate some time ago when talking > >>>>>>> about > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repositories. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ShapeBlue) maintain a repo for our customers, > >>>>>>>> which > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wev'e > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opened > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as public. However, there were concerns about > >>>>>>>> having > >>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domain > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which I understand) - so apt-get became our > >>>>>>>>> preferred > >>>>>>>>>>>>> repo. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts on how to fix this: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. if ASF would allow us to create the host > >>>>>>> entry > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloudstack.org. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its under their domain, but with the site being > >>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be allowed > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. maybe Citrix could commit to pointing the > >>>>>>>> current > >>>>>>>>>> DNS > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entry > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location (would be simplest but may be legally > >>>>>>>>> complex > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relies > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ongoing goodwill) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. make a mod to allow users to choose the > >>>>>>> download > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can then maintain apt-get. To remove the > >>>>>>> SPOF, > >>>>>>>> we > >>>>>>>>>>>>> could > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> templates copied to a number of 3rd party > >>>>>>> locations > >>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allow > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choose which one they use > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Giles > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sir...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com< > >> http://www.shapeblue.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N > >>>>>>> 4HSUK > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: williamstev...@gmail.com [mailto: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> williamstev...@gmail.com] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Will Stevens > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 16 May 2016 18:59 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Ian, yes, but I think there is more to it than > >>>>>>>> that. > >>>>>>>>>> We > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going forward and we can move everything from > >>>>>>> there > >>>>>>>>>> over > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domain. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe the problem is with all of the > >>>>>>> existing > >>>>>>>> ACS > >>>>>>>>>> or > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CCP > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installs > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there currently pointing at the > >>>>>>> download.cloud.com > >>>>>>>>>> URL, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> so > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down, those installs have to be updated. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I don't understand exactly, but that is > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impression I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from this thread. Can this be confirmed? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Will STEVENS* > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lead Developer > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 > >>>>>>> w > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cloudops.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *|* > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tw > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @CloudOps_ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Ian Rae > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <i...@cloudops.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, who controls apt-get.eu and given > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (rather > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerning) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level of dependency on the operation of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it not make sense to use a domain that is > >>>>>>> under > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whose alignment with CloudStack will not > >>>>>>> shift. I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hesitate to implicate the red tape of Apache > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but perhaps the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fabled > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack alliance organization would be a > >>>>>>> good > >>>>>>>>> way > >>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long term. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Raja Pullela > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <raja.pull...@accelerite.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trust me, it won't be go away overnight. We > >>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talking to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Citrix > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requested them to keep it active for another > >>>>>>>> year. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we have the content copied over (I will > >>>>>>>> work > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wido > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verify > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this) to cloudstack.apt-get.eu and update the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (user > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guides update and create a wiki to show how an > >>>>>>>>>> existing > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installation > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can fixed to point to new URLs) we don't have > >>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependency > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on " > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com" - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right? sorry, if I am missing something here? > >>>>>>>>>> Please > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development > >>>>>>> Accelerite, > >>>>>>>>>> 2055, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010, www.accelerite.com< > >> http://www.accelerite.com>, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/16/16, 9:38 PM, "Paul Angus" < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Raja, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May I humbly suggest that someone at > >>>>>>> Accelerite > >>>>>>>>>>>>> speaks > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Citrix > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how long the content will remain on > >>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simply losing the content on > >>>>>>>> download.cloud.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overnight > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone look bad > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com< > >> http://www.shapeblue.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London > >>>>>>> WC2N > >>>>>>>>> 4HSUK > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Raja Pullela > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:raja.pull...@accelerite.com] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 16 May 2016 16:44 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content > >>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are right, this change impacts both > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudPlatform customers. Not sure, if I > >>>>>>>> understand > >>>>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move away from "download.cloud.com" is > >>>>>>>>> permanent. I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long the content on download.cloud.com will > >>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>>>> up/available. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Based on Wido's availability, we can get > >>>>>>> rest > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cloudstack.apt-get.eu, hopefully, by this > >>>>>>> week ? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com is left as is and will > >>>>>>> stay > >>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Citrix > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decides on what to do with it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development > >>>>>>> Accelerite, > >>>>>>>>>> 2055, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010, www.accelerite.com< > >> http://www.accelerite.com>, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/16/16, 6:36 PM, "Paul Angus" < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As this effects every copy of CloudStack > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudPlatform > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was. Please may I ask how long we have to > >>>>>>>> manage a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migration > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from download.cloud.com? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com< > >> http://www.shapeblue.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London > >>>>>>> WC2N > >>>>>>>>>> 4HSUK > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Raja Pullela > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:raja.pull...@accelerite.com] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 16 May 2016 13:53 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content > >>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Paul, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the additional file details > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> request > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wido > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy these as well. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, I agree with you there is every copy > >>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason why I have requested Wido to download > >>>>>>> all > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> old > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like we missed few and get these > >>>>>>> uploaded > >>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>>>>>> well. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that Citrix owns the " > >>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> address > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to get all the CloudStack related content > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>>>>>>> there. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm on the content move Citrix may choose > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> remove > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the location. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That said, I will get in touch with Wido > >>>>>>> again > >>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>> do > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complete > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such that we have everything. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development > >>>>>>>> Accelerite, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2055, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurelwood > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Road, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010, www.accelerite.com< > >> http://www.accelerite.com> > >>>>>>> , > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/16, 7:12 AM, "Paul Angus" < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just picked up on this. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are a number of URLs which are > >>>>>>>> hardcoded > >>>>>>>>>> into > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> database for the small built-in templates. > >>>>>>> These > >>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every copy of CloudStack out there. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/f59f18fb- > >> ae94-4f97 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -afd > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2-f8 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 755767aca.vhd.bz2 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/2.2.0/eec2209b-9875- > >> 3c8d-92 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be-c > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 001b > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8a0faf.qcow2.bz2 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/centos56- > >> x86_64.vh > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d.bz > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/4.3/centos6_4_64bit.vhd.bz2 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/2.2.0/CentOS5.3-x86_64.ova > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/centos-7- > >> x86_64.ta > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> r.gz > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These will need copying and the CloudStack > >>>>>>>> code > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updating > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that you can deprecate > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contents for some time, without causing a lot > >>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>> issues > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Short Term - all the content has moved to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cloudstack.apt-get.eu > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which sections to be modified? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Install Guide needs to be modified. > >>>>>>>> Sample > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links/details > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned below for 4.6 and same needs to > >>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>>>> updated > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Released versions of Cloudstack > >>>>>>>> documentation: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack- > >> installa > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tion > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /en/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 > >>>>>>> .6/management-server/#downloading-vhd-util > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section - Downloading vhd-util¶ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What to do modified ? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modify URL from > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com.s3.amazonaws.com/tools/vhd-util > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/tools/vhd-util > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Rajsekhar can you please update the > >>>>>>>> sections ? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Accelerite, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2055, Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, CA > >>>>>>>> 95054, > >>>>>>>>>> USA > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010, > >>>>>>> www.accelerite.com<http://www.accelerite.com>, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com > >>>>>>> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London > >>>>>>> WC2N > >>>>>>>>>> 4HSUK > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DISCLAIMER > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ========== > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This e-mail may contain privileged and > >>>>>>>>>> confidential > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the property of Accelerite, a Persistent > >>>>>>>> Systems > >>>>>>>>>>>>> business. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intended only for the use 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