Does it take offense at a file level or a line of code level? If it is at
the file level, then it makes sense because people follow the standard
presented in the file and that file is already accounted for in the checker
threshold.
On May 20, 2016 7:06 PM, "Daan Hoogland" <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> wrote:

Concerning the _s, checkstyle takes offence of those in changed lines of
code. So i am wondering how people can get new _s in.

send by tablet, no warranties in existence
On 21 May 2016 00:55, "Will Stevens" <wstev...@cloudops.com> wrote:

> I can confirm we currently have Zero HyperV tests in CI.  Once we have
more
> people contributing to CI we can try to get better coverage, but right now
> I am pretty much just testing on KVM.  I know the accelerite guys are
> testing on Xen.  Once I freeze, I will try to do testing of master in as
> many setups as I can, but I can't do that all the time because I just
don't
> have the bandwidth (in terms of my time) to be able to do that.
>
> Our system is far from perfect right now, but I am slowly trying to close
> that gap...
>
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> Lead Developer
>
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> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Tutkowski, Mike <
> mike.tutkow...@netapp.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Also, does this mean that we have zero Hyper-V integration tests run
> > during CI?
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Tutkowski, Mike <mike.tutkow...@netapp.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:47 AM
> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Variable renaming in classes meant for Agents
> >
> > Yeah, it has to go into 4.9. :) Unless no one cares about Hyper-V.
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingart...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:42 AM
> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Variable renaming in classes meant for Agents
> >
> > You are right Mike about the “_”. The point is that in some other
> language
> > the use of “_” makes sense, whereas in Java it does not, at least not
the
> > way it has being used in ACS.
> >
> > We have code conventions, it can be found in [1]. The problem is that it
> is
> > a bit outdated and I think it could benefit from some others tutorials.
> For
> > instance, a clear and simple tutorial explaining what is a test case and
> > showing how to create a proper test case; I am referring to the
> > unit/integration test case that we write using Junit and other tools.
> >
> > Also, we lack some information on how to prepare code to be tested.
> > Once we have that kind of standard defined and tutorials written, we
> could
> > work out ways to educate our community. It is not a problem not to know
> > those things; we cannot expect everyone to know how to use every single
> > methodology and technology that is out there. But, we can help people to
> > learn, that is the point of a community, it should be a place where
> people
> > exchange ideas and experience in a way that benefits everyone.
> >
> > As soon as you open the PR, please let us know, so we can review it and
> > help you get it merge as soon as possible. I think this is something
that
> > should go in the 4.9 release.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Tutkowski, Mike <
> > mike.tutkow...@netapp.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It sounds like most people don't like a preceding "_" for member
> > variables
> > > and that is fine. Do we have any formal Java coding standards for
> > > CloudStack, by the way? I'm not aware of any.
> > >
> > > The main problem here, though, is that this particular piece of code
is
> > > super fragile, so it would be great to harden it up.
> > >
> > > I'm going to open a PR and revert the names in those changed "Command"
> > > files for 4.9. That will solve the immediate problem.
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingart...@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 9:12 AM
> > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Variable renaming in classes meant for Agents
> > >
> > > Hi guys,
> > > I agree with Daan that if class fields have improper (not descriptive
> or
> > > not suitable) names we should change them. However, I do not find the
> > > change (on variable names) introduced by PR #816 good. It added an
> > > “_”(underline) before variable names; even though Apache CloudStack
> has a
> > > lot of that currently, I think that is a pattern we should avoid.
> > >
> > > Your ideas to use annotations to avoid relying on variable names are
> > great;
> > > but, let’s not re-create the well here. There is a research [1] that
> has
> > > been conducted in 2014 that tackled exactly that problem; the proposal
> > > presented in [1] decoupled client and server sides from variable name
> by
> > > using semantic annotations. The concept, the formalization and the
> > > experiments are all presented in paper [1]. The serialization and
> > > deserialization core of the proposal presented in [1] can be found in
> > [2].
> > >
> > > The idea of decoupling our web APIs from variable names is great, but
> it
> > is
> > > something that will require some effort to be fully and properly
> > > implemented. If you wish to push that forward count on me.
> > >
> > > [1] http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=6928953&tag=1
> > > [2] https://github.com/ivansalvadori/gsonld
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 3:30 AM, Daan Hoogland <
> daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Guys, we should rename fields that have improper names. I do not
> agreee
> > > > with the statement at all. Your two solutions to the serialisation
> > hazard
> > > > are both acceptable to me. leaving a non compliant or non
explanatory
> > > name
> > > > in because it slipped through the nets at some points does not seem
> > > > acceptable to me. We must improve are code.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 6:53 AM, Tutkowski, Mike <
> > > > mike.tutkow...@netapp.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks for sending out this e-mail, Anshul.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a bit of a strange situation because we need to make sure
> > > people
> > > > > are either aware of the fact that properties in Command classes
are
> > > > > serialized (and not change existing variable names) or come up
> with a
> > > > less
> > > > > fragile way of choosing property names when sending data (perhaps
> > using
> > > > > annotations).
> > > > >
> > > > > At the very least, we should have comments in these classes
> > indicating
> > > > the
> > > > > dangers of changing property names. It might also be beneficial to
> > have
> > > > > unit tests in place that expect certain variable names and assert
> if
> > > they
> > > > > are not as expected.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the meanwhile, I plan to change the variable names back that
> were
> > > > > changed in PR #816.
> > > > >
> > > > > Additional thoughts on how this should be addressed long term?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > ________________________________________
> > > > > From: Anshul Gangwar <anshul.gang...@accelerite.com>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:47 PM
> > > > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Variable renaming in classes meant for Agents
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > We should not allow renaming of variables in classes which ends
> with
> > > > > Command and TO. As these objects are meant to be consumed by
> Agents.
> > > > >
> > > > > Agents may not be written in java so relying on these variable
> names
> > to
> > > > > get the info. One such example is Hyper-V agent.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hyper-V support is currently broken as there are some variables
> > renamed
> > > > in
> > > > > PR https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/816.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Anshul
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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