Cant we just host the mirror list in apache.org and then actually host the mirrors in different places around the world? A company could sponsor the few bucks a month for AWS and have one of the mirrors be in AWS and the mirror list in apache.org would just be updated to add the AWS mirror.
Isn't that basically what we are proposing here? The ability to have different mirrors with the 'official' endpoint being in an apache.org endpoint to list the mirrors? *Will STEVENS* Lead Developer *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_ On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> wrote: > is there no way, within foundation bylaws, to host this somewhere on > apache.org? we are using peoples wibesites for tests as well, aren't we. > > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > We could host a mirror here. We are in South America, Brazil. > > > > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <chirade...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I was proposing a new S3 bucket earlier (templates.cloudstack.org), > but > > I > > > realized that someone needs to own the account. There is no legal > entity > > > for Apache CloudStack (except the ASF) that can enter into a contract > > with > > > AWS (even if it is for a few bucks a month). To make this work, > > > alternatives: > > > (1) ASF Infra creates this bucket and IAM keys to the PMC to operate > > this > > > bucket. ACS users might want to make targeted donations to support this > > > bucket, but I don't believe that it is possible. > > > > > > (2) Cloudstack.org gets registered as a (non-profit?) entity etc and > ACS > > > users make donations to this entity. PMC has control over the bucket. > > > > > > A mirror list and a python script (e.g., [1]) sounds like a much better > > > idea :) > > > > > > Raise of hands: > > > Who is willing to host a mirror of systemvm templates and default > > > templates. I figure we need at least 5, preferably all over the world, > > > especially in East Asia. > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > http://code.activestate.com/recipes/284631-a-python-script-to-test-download-mirrors/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Chiradeep Vittal < > chirade...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Agree with Daan : we shouldn't be pushing these ancient insecure > > > > templates! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Chiradeep Vittal < > > chirade...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> :) According to Raja, there is some time before download.cloud.com > is > > > >> doomed. Let's pretend that date is Jan 1 2017. Now pretend that it > is > > > Dec > > > >> 25, 2016 and we're still debating mirror list vs steps and what not. > > > Now, > > > >> just change the 2017 to 2016 and re-consider. We need this done > > > yesterday! > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:53 AM, Daan Hoogland < > > daan.hoogl...@gmail.com > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> send by tablet, no warranties in existence > > > >>> On 20 May 2016 09:29, "Paul Angus" <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > >>> > I'm a -1 on adding another step to the installation process. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > I agree with Will, it will only be another barrier to platform > > > >>> adoption. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > The SSVM going and downloading the built-in template is a good > > > >>> milestone > > > >>> in a CloudStack build. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > To be honest the mgmt. server should be able to go get the > template > > > >>> itself if required rather than making it a user installation step. > > > >>> great idea, looking forward to your PR. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Kind regards, > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Paul Angus > > > >>> > > > > >>> > paul.an...@shapeblue.com > > > >>> > www.shapeblue.com > > > >>> > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK > > > >>> > @shapeblue > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > -----Original Message----- > > > >>> > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] > > > >>> > Sent: 19 May 2016 23:06 > > > >>> > To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > > > >>> > Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from > download.cloud.com > > > >>> > > > > >>> > sounds good, so if we put both sections together the worry is > over. > > > acs > > > >>> is a complex system and requires a lot of reading so let''s not put > > it > > > >>> in a > > > >>> different section. would be duplicate code anyhow. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Chiradeep Vittal < > > > >>> chirade...@gmail.com> > > > >>> > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Well, you have to define "worry" :) > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > I'm proposing an almost identical step to > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-installation/en/ > > > >>> > > 4.6/management-server/#prepare-the-system-vm-template > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > If they can do that, then it is not a stretch to assume they > can > > > >>> > > download the default template in a similar manner. The > > > >>> > > "cloud-install-default-template" (proposed) script can do the > > > mirror > > > >>> > > checking etc. > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Will Stevens < > > > wstev...@cloudops.com > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > I definitely agree with this. I don't think people doing a > PoC > > > >>> > > > should > > > >>> > > have > > > >>> > > > to worry about getting a template installed on first setup. > I > > > >>> think > > > >>> > > > that is a basic feature if we want platform adoption. > Getting > > > the > > > >>> > > > first boot process from download to first VM launched should > be > > > as > > > >>> > > > smooth as > > > >>> > > possible. > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > *Will STEVENS* > > > >>> > > > Lead Developer > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts > > > >>> > > > 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w > cloudops.com > > > *|* > > > >>> > > > tw @CloudOps_ > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Daan Hoogland > > > >>> > > > <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> > > > >>> > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > Chiradeep, > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > It makes sense not to have this old default very insecure > > guest > > > >>> > > template > > > >>> > > > > still be downloaded but it would be nice to have some kind > of > > > >>> > > > > meta-data pointing to the latest version of an acceptable > > > >>> template > > > >>> > > > > (symlink) for trial installs so PoCcers are swiftly on > their > > > way. > > > >>> Would you agree? > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Chiradeep Vittal < > > > >>> > > chirade...@gmail.com> > > > >>> > > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > Pierre, > > > >>> > > > > > I meant the auto-download of default templates, not > > systemvm. > > > >>> > > > > > Note that the initial systemvm template has to be > > > >>> > > > > > hand-downloaded > > > >>> > > > anyway. > > > >>> > > > > > If you are a single hypervisor cloud, then that is all > that > > > is > > > >>> > > needed. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Pierre-Luc Dion < > > > >>> > > pd...@cloudops.com> > > > >>> > > > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > I would be -1 about disabling the autodownload of the > > > >>> systemvm > > > >>> > > > > template, > > > >>> > > > > > > has this should be simplify deployment of a cloudstack > > > >>> system. > > > >>> > > > > > > although, the download URL should be a configurable > > value, > > > >>> > > > > > > maybe > > > >>> > > in a > > > >>> > > > > > > property file or thru the API somehow or via a > > pre-install > > > >>> command. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > I really like download.cloudstack.org + mirror. I'm > > > looking > > > >>> > > > > > > at > > > >>> > > > > getting > > > >>> > > > > > > the > > > >>> > > > > > > DNS entry: builds.cloudstack.org for the new Jenkins > > and I > > > >>> got > > > >>> > > > > > > no objections on using the cloudstack.org domain for > > > >>> community > > > >>> > > services > > > >>> > > > > so > > > >>> > > > > > > I'm > > > >>> > > > > > > pretty sure we would be ok to use > > download.cloudstack.org, > > > >>> > > > > > > where > > > >>> > > > would > > > >>> > > > > > we > > > >>> > > > > > > setting this up? on the current webserver of our > website? > > > >>> > > > > > > could we > > > >>> > > ? > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Cheers, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > PL > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Giles Sirett < > > > >>> > > > > > giles.sir...@shapeblue.com > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Erik > > > >>> > > > > > > > I agree on the existing users - not the end of the > > world. > > > >>> We > > > >>> > > could > > > >>> > > > > even > > > >>> > > > > > > > release a tiny patch to update the DB records > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > The piece that we need to be really careful with is > the > > > >>> > > > > > > > "I've > > > >>> > > just > > > >>> > > > > > > > downloaded cloudstack thing for the first time" > > scenario > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > But - there seems to be plenty of good ideas flowing > on > > > >>> that > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Kind Regards > > > >>> > > > > > > > Giles > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > giles.sir...@shapeblue.com > > > >>> > > > > > > > www.shapeblue.com > > > >>> > > > > > > > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK > > > >>> > > > > > > > @shapeblue > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >>> > > > > > > > From: Erik Weber [mailto:terbol...@gmail.com] > > > >>> > > > > > > > Sent: 19 May 2016 09:32 > > > >>> > > > > > > > To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > > > >>> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from > > > >>> > > download.cloud.com > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > As a user (with old ACS installations) I'd say that > > this > > > >>> > > > > > > > isn't > > > >>> > > all > > > >>> > > > > that > > > >>> > > > > > > > troublesome, this is easily fixed by updating the > > > >>> > > > > > > > appropriate db > > > >>> > > > > > records. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > We should ensure that we have some good posts > > discovered > > > by > > > >>> > > Google > > > >>> > > > > and > > > >>> > > > > > > > other search engines, so that when somebody running > old > > > >>> > > > installations > > > >>> > > > > > hit > > > >>> > > > > > > > this issue they find the workaround. > > > >>> > > > > > > > There's a lot of time to reach out to users and > inform > > of > > > >>> > > > > > > > the fix necessary. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > -- > > > >>> > > > > > > > Erik > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Giles Sirett < > > > >>> > > > > > > giles.sir...@shapeblue.com > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > This is a MAJOR problem and needs to be figured out > > > >>> before > > > >>> > > > > > > > > the > > > >>> > > > > > current > > > >>> > > > > > > > > download site is removed - @Raja - have Citrix > > > committed > > > >>> > > > > > > > > to it > > > >>> > > > > being > > > >>> > > > > > > > there > > > >>> > > > > > > > > another year ? > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > It is my understanding that Cloudstack relies on > this > > > >>> > > > > > > > > download > > > >>> > > at > > > >>> > > > > > > initial > > > >>> > > > > > > > > build/startup and then periodically if people do > > things > > > >>> > > > > > > > > like > > > >>> > > > build > > > >>> > > > > a > > > >>> > > > > > > new > > > >>> > > > > > > > > zone > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > So, users environments aren't going to stop if its > > > >>> pulled, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > but > > > >>> > > > > nobody > > > >>> > > > > > > > > would be a able to build/install cloudstack and it > > may > > > >>> > > > > > > > > cause > > > >>> > > > issues > > > >>> > > > > > as > > > >>> > > > > > > > and > > > >>> > > > > > > > > when users make config changes > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > The problem is, for new builds, its hard coded : > you > > > >>> start > > > >>> > > > > > > > > the > > > >>> > > > Sec > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Storage VM, CloudStack will try to download the > built > > > in > > > >>> > > template > > > >>> > > > > > from > > > >>> > > > > > > > > download.cloud.com > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > My understanding is that its simple db change to > > make > > > >>> > > > > > > > > once an > > > >>> > > > > > > > environment > > > >>> > > > > > > > > is running (exisiting users) but *may* require a > code > > > >>> > > > > > > > > patch to > > > >>> > > > fix > > > >>> > > > > > the > > > >>> > > > > > > > > initial install > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > #notideal > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Really, this should be maintained by ASF/ the > project > > > as > > > >>> > > > > > > > > its > > > >>> > > key > > > >>> > > > to > > > >>> > > > > > the > > > >>> > > > > > > > > software working, however my understanding is it > > > involves > > > >>> > > > binaries > > > >>> > > > > > > which > > > >>> > > > > > > > > ASF is never keen on (and may be some 3rd party > > > binaries) > > > >>> > > > > > > > > - so > > > >>> > > > that > > > >>> > > > > > > just > > > >>> > > > > > > > > wont happen > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Apt-get is controlled by Wido et al (for which we > all > > > owe > > > >>> > > > > > > > > him a > > > >>> > > > > > massive > > > >>> > > > > > > > > thanks) - but you are right, it is a 3rd party > > > >>> dependency > > > >>> > > > > > > > > and > > > >>> > > > > > > arguably a > > > >>> > > > > > > > > SPOF. But, if ASF wont host binaries, we're always > > > going > > > >>> > > > > > > > > to > > > >>> > > have > > > >>> > > > > > this > > > >>> > > > > > > > > issue. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > So, we could patch the code to point somewhere > else - > > > but > > > >>> > > > > > > > > where > > > >>> > > > ? - > > > >>> > > > > > by > > > >>> > > > > > > > > definition its got to be something maintained by a > > 3rd > > > >>> > > > > > > > > party > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > We had this debate some time ago when talking about > > the > > > >>> > > > > repositories. > > > >>> > > > > > > We > > > >>> > > > > > > > > (ShapeBlue) maintain a repo for our customers, > which > > > >>> wev'e > > > >>> > > always > > > >>> > > > > > > opened > > > >>> > > > > > > > up > > > >>> > > > > > > > > as public. However, there were concerns about > having > > a > > > >>> > > > > > > > > company > > > >>> > > > > domain > > > >>> > > > > > > > name > > > >>> > > > > > > > > (which I understand) - so apt-get became our > > preferred > > > >>> repo. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Thoughts on how to fix this: > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > 1. if ASF would allow us to create the host entry > > > >>> > > > > > > > download.cloudstack.org. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Its under their domain, but with the site being > with > > a > > > >>> 3rd > > > >>> > > party > > > >>> > > > it > > > >>> > > > > > > could > > > >>> > > > > > > > > be allowed > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > 2. maybe Citrix could commit to pointing the > current > > > DNS > > > >>> > > > > > > > > entry > > > >>> > > > to a > > > >>> > > > > > new > > > >>> > > > > > > > > location (would be simplest but may be legally > > complex > > > >>> and > > > >>> > > relies > > > >>> > > > > on > > > >>> > > > > > > > > ongoing goodwill) > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > 3. make a mod to allow users to choose the download > > > >>> > > > > > > > > location on > > > >>> > > > > > > install. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > We can then maintain apt-get. To remove the SPOF, > we > > > >>> could > > > >>> > > > > > > > > then > > > >>> > > > get > > > >>> > > > > > the > > > >>> > > > > > > > > templates copied to a number of 3rd party locations > > and > > > >>> > > > > > > > > allow > > > >>> > > > > people > > > >>> > > > > > to > > > >>> > > > > > > > > choose which one they use > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Kind Regards > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Giles > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > giles.sir...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com > > > >>> > > > > > > > > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK > > > >>> > > > > > > > > @shapeblue > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >>> > > > > > > > > From: williamstev...@gmail.com [mailto: > > > >>> > > williamstev...@gmail.com] > > > >>> > > > > On > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Behalf Of Will Stevens > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Sent: 16 May 2016 18:59 > > > >>> > > > > > > > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Cc: Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from > > > >>> > > > download.cloud.com > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > @Ian, yes, but I think there is more to it than > that. > > > We > > > >>> > > > > > > > > can > > > >>> > > > > change > > > >>> > > > > > it > > > >>> > > > > > > > > going forward and we can move everything from there > > > over > > > >>> > > > > > > > > to a > > > >>> > > new > > > >>> > > > > > > domain. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > I believe the problem is with all of the existing > ACS > > > or > > > >>> > > > > > > > > CCP > > > >>> > > > > installs > > > >>> > > > > > > out > > > >>> > > > > > > > > there currently pointing at the download.cloud.com > > > URL, > > > >>> so > > > >>> > > when > > > >>> > > > it > > > >>> > > > > > > goes > > > >>> > > > > > > > > down, those installs have to be updated. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Maybe I don't understand exactly, but that is the > > > >>> > > > > > > > > impression I > > > >>> > > am > > > >>> > > > > > > getting > > > >>> > > > > > > > > from this thread. Can this be confirmed? > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > *Will STEVENS* > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Lead Developer > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts > > > >>> > > > > > > > > 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w > > > >>> > > > > > > > > cloudops.com > > > >>> > > > *|* > > > >>> > > > > > tw > > > >>> > > > > > > > > @CloudOps_ > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Ian Rae > > > >>> > > > > > > > > <i...@cloudops.com> > > > >>> > > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Hey guys, who controls apt-get.eu and given the > > > >>> (rather > > > >>> > > > > > concerning) > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > level of dependency on the operation of the > > > >>> > > download.cloud.com > > > >>> > > > - > > > >>> > > > > > > would > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > it not make sense to use a domain that is under > the > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > control > > > >>> > > of > > > >>> > > > > > party > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > whose alignment with CloudStack will not shift. I > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > hesitate to implicate the red tape of Apache > > > >>> Foundation, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > but perhaps the > > > >>> > > > > fabled > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > CloudStack alliance organization would be a good > > way > > > to > > > >>> > > handle > > > >>> > > > > this > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > long term. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Raja Pullela > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > <raja.pull...@accelerite.com> wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Paul, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > trust me, it won’t be go away overnight. We > are > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > talking to > > > >>> > > > > > Citrix > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > and > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > requested them to keep it active for another > year. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Once we have the content copied over (I will > work > > > >>> with > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Wido > > > >>> > > > and > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > verify > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > this) to cloudstack.apt-get.eu and update the > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > documentation > > > >>> > > > > (user > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > guides update and create a wiki to show how an > > > existing > > > >>> > > > > > installation > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > can fixed to point to new URLs) we don’t have a > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > dependency > > > >>> > > on “ > > > >>> > > > > > > > > download.cloud.com” – > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > right? sorry, if I am missing something here? > > > Please > > > >>> let > > > >>> > > me > > > >>> > > > > > know, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > best, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Raja > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Senior Manager, Product Development Accelerite, > > > 2055, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Phone: 1-408-216-7010, www.accelerite.com, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > @accelerite > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > On 5/16/16, 9:38 PM, "Paul Angus" < > > > >>> > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > > > >>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Thanks Raja, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>May I humbly suggest that someone at Accelerite > > > >>> speaks > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>to > > > >>> > > > > Citrix > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>about > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > how long the content will remain on > > > download.cloud.com > > > >>> ? > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Simply losing the content on > download.cloud.com > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>overnight > > > >>> > > > will > > > >>> > > > > > > make > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > everyone look bad > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Kind regards, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Paul Angus > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>paul.an...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N > > 4HSUK > > > >>> > > > @shapeblue > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>From: Raja Pullela > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>[mailto:raja.pull...@accelerite.com] > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Sent: 16 May 2016 16:44 > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from > > > >>> > > > > > download.cloud.com > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Paul, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Yes, you are right, this change impacts both > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>CloudStack and > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > CloudPlatform customers. Not sure, if I > understand > > > you > > > >>> > > > > correctly, > > > >>> > > > > > > the > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > move away from “download.cloud.com” is > > permanent. I > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > don’t > > > >>> > > > know > > > >>> > > > > > how > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > long the content on download.cloud.com will be > > > >>> up/available. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Based on Wido’s availability, we can get rest > of > > > the > > > >>> > > content > > > >>> > > > to > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > cloudstack.apt-get.eu, hopefully, by this week ? > > > >>> BTW, > > > >>> the > > > >>> > > > > > content > > > >>> > > > > > > > on > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > download.cloud.com is left as is and will stay > as > > is > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > until > > > >>> > > > > Citrix > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > decides on what to do with it. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Best, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Raja > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Senior Manager, Product Development Accelerite, > > > 2055, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Phone: 1-408-216-7010, www.accelerite.com, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>@accelerite > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>On 5/16/16, 6:36 PM, "Paul Angus" < > > > >>> > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > > > >>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Raja, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>As this effects every copy of CloudStack and > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>CloudPlatform > > > >>> > > > > there > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>ever > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > was. Please may I ask how long we have to > manage a > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > migration > > > >>> > > > > away > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > from download.cloud.com? > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Kind regards, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Paul Angus > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Regards, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Paul Angus > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>paul.an...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N > > > 4HSUK > > > >>> > > > @shapeblue > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>-----Original Message----- > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>From: Raja Pullela > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>[mailto:raja.pull...@accelerite.com] > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Sent: 16 May 2016 13:53 > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from > > > >>> > > > > > download.cloud.com > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Hi Paul, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Thank you for the additional file details and > I > > > will > > > >>> > > request > > > >>> > > > > > wido > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>to > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > copy these as well. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>BTW, I agree with you there is every copy of > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>CloudStack > > > >>> > > out > > > >>> > > > > > there > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>and > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > reason why I have requested Wido to download all > > the > > > >>> old > > > >>> > > files > > > >>> > > > as > > > >>> > > > > > > well. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Looks like we missed few and get these uploaded > as > > > >>> well. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Please note that Citrix owns the “ > > > >>> download.cloud.com” > > > >>> > > > address > > > >>> > > > > > and > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>we > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > have to get all the CloudStack related content > from > > > >>> there. > > > >>> > > > Once > > > >>> > > > > we > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > confirm on the content move Citrix may choose to > > > remove > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > the > > > >>> > > > > content > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > from the location. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>That said, I will get in touch with Wido again > > and > > > >>> do > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>a > > > >>> > > > > complete > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>copy > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > such that we have everything. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Best, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Raja > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Senior Manager, Product Development > Accelerite, > > > >>> 2055, > > > >>> > > > > Laurelwood > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Road, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Phone: 1-408-216-7010, www.accelerite.com, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>@accelerite > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>On 5/14/16, 7:12 AM, "Paul Angus" < > > > >>> > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Raja, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>I've just picked up on this. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>There are a number of URLs which are > hardcoded > > > into > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>the > > > >>> > > > > > > CloudStack > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > database for the small built-in templates. These > > are > > > >>> in > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > just > > > >>> > > > > about > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > every copy of CloudStack out there. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/f59f18fb-ae94-4f97 > > > >>> > > > > > > -afd > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>2-f8 > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>4 > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>755767aca.vhd.bz2 > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/2.2.0/eec2209b-9875-3c8d-92 > > > >>> > > > > > > be-c > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>001b > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>d > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>8a0faf.qcow2.bz2 > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/centos56-x86_64.vh > > > >>> > > > > > > d.bz > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>2 > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > http://download.cloud.com/releases/4.3/centos6_4_64bit.vhd.bz2 > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > http://download.cloud.com/releases/2.2.0/CentOS5.3-x86_64.ova > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/centos-7-x86_64.ta > > > >>> > > > > > > r.gz > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>These will need copying and the CloudStack > code > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>updating > > > >>> > > to > > > >>> > > > > the > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>new > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > location. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>I don't think that you can deprecate > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>download.cloud.com > > > >>> > > or > > > >>> > > > > > it's > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > contents for some time, without causing a lot of > > > issues > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > for > > > >>> > > > > users. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Hi, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Short Term - all the content has moved to > > > >>> > > > > > cloudstack.apt-get.eu > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Which sections to be modified? > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>The Install Guide needs to be modified. > Sample > > > >>> > > > links/details > > > >>> > > > > > are > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>mentioned below for 4.6 and same needs to be > > > >>> updated > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>for > > > >>> > > > > other > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Released versions of Cloudstack > documentation: > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-installa > > > >>> > > > > > > tion > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>/en/ > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>4 .6/management-server/#downloading-vhd-util > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Section - Downloading vhd-util¶ > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>What to do modified ? > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>modify URL from > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > http://download.cloud.com.s3.amazonaws.com/tools/vhd-util > > > >>> > > > to > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/tools/vhd-util > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>@Rajsekhar can you please update the > sections ? > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Thanks > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Raja > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Senior Manager, Product Development > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Accelerite, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>2055, Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, CA > 95054, > > > USA > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Phone: 1-408-216-7010, www.accelerite.com, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>@accelerite > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Kind regards, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Paul Angus > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Regards, > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Paul Angus > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>paul.an...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N > > > 4HSUK > > > >>> > > > > @shapeblue > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>DISCLAIMER > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>========== > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>This e-mail may contain privileged and > > > confidential > > > >>> > > > > information > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>which > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > is the property of Accelerite, a Persistent > Systems > > > >>> business. > > > >>> > > > It > > > >>> > > > > is > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > intended only for the use of the individual or > > entity > > > >>> to > > > >>> > > which > > > >>> > > > it > > > >>> > > > > > is > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, > > you > > > >>> are > > > >>> not > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > authorized to read, retain, copy, print, > distribute > > > or > > > >>> use > > > >>> > > this > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > message. If you have received this communication > in > > > >>> error, > > > >>> > > > please > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > notify the sender and delete all copies of this > > > >>> message. > > > >>> > > > > > Accelerite, > > > >>> > > > > > > a > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Persistent Systems business does not accept any > > > >>> liability > > > >>> for > > > >>> > > > > virus > > > >>> > > > > > > > > infected mails. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>DISCLAIMER > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>========== > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>This e-mail may contain privileged and > > confidential > > > >>> > > > information > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>which is > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > the property of Accelerite, a Persistent Systems > > > >>> business. It > > > >>> > > > is > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > intended only for the use of the individual or > > entity > > > >>> to > > > >>> > > which > > > >>> > > > it > > > >>> > > > > > is > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, > > you > > > >>> are > > > >>> not > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > authorized to read, retain, copy, print, > distribute > > > or > > > >>> use > > > >>> > > this > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > message. If you have received this communication > in > > > >>> error, > > > >>> > > > please > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > notify the sender and delete all copies of this > > > >>> message. > > > >>> > > > > > Accelerite, > > > >>> > > > > > > a > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Persistent Systems business does not accept any > > > >>> liability > > > >>> for > > > >>> > > > > virus > > > >>> > > > > > > > > infected mails. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > ========== > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > This e-mail may contain privileged and > > confidential > > > >>> > > > information > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > which is > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > the property of Accelerite, a Persistent Systems > > > >>> business. It > > > >>> > > > is > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > intended only for the use of the individual or > > entity > > > >>> to > > > >>> > > which > > > >>> > > > it > > > >>> > > > > > is > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, > > you > > > >>> are > > > >>> not > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > authorized to read, retain, copy, print, > distribute > > > or > > > >>> use > > > >>> > > this > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > message. If you have received this communication > in > > > >>> error, > > > >>> > > > please > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > notify the sender and delete all copies of this > > > >>> message. > > > >>> > > > > > Accelerite, > > > >>> > > > > > > a > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Persistent Systems business does not accept any > > > >>> liability > > > >>> for > > > >>> > > > > virus > > > >>> > > > > > > > > infected mails. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > Ian Rae > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > CEO | PDG > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > c: 514.944.4008 > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > CloudOps | Cloud Infrastructure and Networking > > > >>> Solutions > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > www.cloudops.com | 420 rue Guy | Montreal | > > Canada | > > > >>> H3J > > > >>> 1S6 > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > -- > > > >>> > > > > Daan > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > -- > > > >>> > Daan > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rafael Weingärtner > > > > > > -- > Daan >
