All,

LTS branches will be maintained for 20 months. In that time, some defects will 
be fixed in an LTS branch and forward merged. Some defects will be identified 
in master, and we will need to determine whether or not they should be pulled 
back to one or more of the active LTS branches. As master evolves, there will 
not always be a straight line from LTS to master. Requiring a direct path 
between LTS branches and master would either severely constrain the development 
of master or compromise the stability expected by LTS users. We should also not 
assume that all backports will be merges/cherry picks — some will be 
re-implementations due to divergence over time. Like the Ubuntu and Red Hat 
maintenance cycles, the proposal places the burden of determining the best 
approach to defect backporting on LTS maintainers to avoid impacting the 
velocity of feature development. While we should prefer fixing in LTS merging 
forward, the reality is that maintaining long running maintenance branches will 
require some cherry picking and re-implementation of defects due to the length 
of the support window.

It’s also important to note I propose only pulling back blockers and critical 
severity defects within the scope of the LTS’ functionality from master. The 
goal of LTS is not to fix every defect. It is to fix those defects that impact 
system stability or severely degrade functionality. Previously, we conflated 
feature development and maintenance into a single set of release branches using 
the same release cycle. With the monthly releases, users have a path to acquire 
new functionality independent of bug fix/maintenance efforts — removing 
potential justification to pull back new features or enhancements. As we have 
discussed this proposal, I think it should be amended to require that all PRs 
to an LTS branch include an LGTM from the LTS branch RM to ensure that only 
defects that fit within the narrowly defined constraints.

Based on our history, I share your concerns about cherry picking abuse, and 
have attempt to design the proposal to address them. I believe that the tighter 
constraints on the defects that are allowed to be backported, a clearly defined 
policy about the LTS release cycle schedule, and monthly releases will allow us 
to avoid the mistakes of the past.

Thanks,
-John

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On Jan 19, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Jeff, That we did before. I don't think that's good enough. It must be the
> same commit as far as I'm concerned. Any conflict will be made explicit in
> a merge commit that way.
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Jeff Hair <j...@greenqloud.com> wrote:
>
>> Maybe require all cherry-picks to use the -x option, which puts the
>> original commit hash in the cherry-picked commit message?
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Remi Bergsma <
>> rberg...@schubergphilis.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On a certain night when a release had been cut and there was some worry
>>> about a security fix not being included. The root cause was that we
>>> cherry-picked that fix and as a result its commit hash had changed. Hence
>>> we couldn’t find it.
>>>
>>> I’d recommend using forward merging instead of back porting aka
>>> cherry-picking, so the commit hashes stay the same and fixes are easily
>>> traceable.
>>>
>>> Just my $0.02.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Remi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19/01/16 08:45, "Daan Hoogland" <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 4:20 AM, John Burwell <
>> john.burw...@shapeblue.com
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In terms of the merge strategy, nothing about the current process
>> would
>>>>> change. Defects would be fixed on the branch where they occurred and
>>> then
>>>>> forward ported to master. For each maintained LTS branch less than 14
>>>>> months old, only blocker and critical defects that fall within the
>> LTS’
>>>>> branch scope would be pulled back from master. Therefore, the number
>> of
>>>>> defects backported should be relatively small. Any defects found and
>>> fixed
>>>>> in an LTS branch would be forward ported to master. I will clarify the
>>>>> proposal to establish this merge pattern to ensure that LTS does not
>>>>> violate or impede the flow of defect fixes on master and maintained
>>> monthly
>>>>> releases.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ​John, Any backporting should be avoided. Any fix review should include
>>> the
>>>> contemplation of the question, 'Is this on the right branch?'. That is
>> my
>>>> point. I am not against LTS. I want fixes to be traceable by their
>> commit
>>>> id over all branches. Backporting is killing in that respect.​
>>>>
>>>> ​I am not the release manager so rest assured I will not ​make an issue
>> of
>>>> this any more. I won't hold my peace either, though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Daan
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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