On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Erik Weber <terbol...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm up for it, delivering from an official ASF source gives it a sense of > more authenticity (IMHO). > > Could we host the RPM/DEB repos there as well? >
Yes, that's the easy part. We could turn that on immediately, if we are willing to package, vote on, and push RPMs/DEBs there. > If we some how could come up with a way for the packaging to provide some > sort of proof of what commit it is built from, it would be easier for users > to verify that they are using the right version where using other vendor > versions. > Well, Ideally the project publishing these ourselves would take care of that. > > -- > Erik > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 3:24 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote: > >> Not too many years ago, the system VM was distributed from >> cloud.com/Citrix, and we didn't like that (including me). I didn't >> like it because it put the community at large in a place where we >> relied on Citrix to build and distribute. We now have the ability to >> build those systemVMs and I'd prefer we not become dependent on >> another vendor for distribution of SystemVMs for our releases. >> >> It might even be time to revisit whether or not we want to use >> apt-get.eu. Why you might ask? Well, recently, packages.apache.org has >> become available as a distribution method. It's designed to have large >> files, RPM repos and Deb repos. Originally, we used apt-get.eu because >> we couldn't distribute the VMware bindings from the ASF as well as the >> other non-ASF friendly licensed plugins. However, roughly 1/2 of the >> packages we upload are only OSS - and only ASF-friendly software. By >> distributing and referring to the non-OSS software, we are essentially >> rewarding the community unfriendly policies of some. >> >> I _that_ that it is entirely reasonable for us to ask for permission >> (And I think there's a high likelihood of getting permission) to >> distribute systemVMs via packages.apache.org. I think we could also >> distribute RPMs and Debs (and Windows binaries for that matter) if we >> wanted to. We would have to exclude the VMware bits, but that would be >> either 1) a great place for vendors to deliver value; or 2) be great >> incentive for us to switch to a free set of vCenter bindings. >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Rohit, please take Rajani's points seriously. As companies we try to add >> > value for our customers. As apache committers we are committed to provide >> > users with a base of quality software that is guaranteed by the >> foundation. >> > We can mention our respective companies of course but the releases we >> make, >> > including their documentation should be very clear about the versions as >> > signed and stamped by the members of this community. Shapeblue's >> templates >> > are very valuable for the community at large but they are Shapeblue's >> > releases, not apache's. The documentation should not point to templates >> > supplied by companies but to companies suplying alternative templates or >> > full releases. >> > >> > Op wo 27 mei 2015 om 11:04 schreef Rohit Yadav < >> rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>: >> > >> >> Hi Milamber, >> >> >> >> You can try this: >> >> >> >> Upgrade your current host with latest packages libvirt/qemu and kernel. >> My >> >> test host was on Ubuntu 14.04.2, so your issue could be something due to >> >> Debian 7.x which ships with much older packages compared to my test >> host, >> >> I’ll try to test with a Debian 7 host later this week. >> >> >> >> 1. You may need to remove any cached qcow2 image in the primary storage >> >> (usually there will be a file with same md5sum as the current 4.5 >> systemvm >> >> template). >> >> >> >> 2. Preseed the systemvm template again >> >> >> >> 3. Check value of router.template.kvm in global settings to confirm the >> >> current systemvm template in use, then grab it’s template id and >> pre-seed >> >> the template again manually using -F: >> >> >> >> >> /usr/share/cloudstack-common/scripts/storage/secondary/cloud-install-sys-tmplt >> >> -m /export/secondary/ -f <4.5 systemvmtemplate file downloaded from >> >> http://packages.shapeblue.com/systemvmtemplate/4.5> -h kvm -o localhost >> >> -r cloud -d cloudpassword -F >> >> >> >> 4. Now destroy old systemvms and report if you face the same issue. >> >> >> >> I’m planning to refresh the systemvmtemplate with latest builds after >> >> doing some tests in about 2 weeks time. >> >> >> >> > On 25-May-2015, at 2:14 pm, Milamber <milam...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On 25/05/2015 11:56, Rohit Yadav wrote: >> >> >> Hi Milamber, >> >> >> >> >> >> In theory you should be able to use any of the systemvmtemplates and >> >> also from jenkins.buildacloud.org, but the one I published on >> >> packages.shapeblue.com is the latest and has the few additional >> >> improvements, latest packages and security updates. >> >> > >> >> > Ok so it's better to use the shapeblue systemvm. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I’ve tested this and it seems to have worked for me on Ubuntu 14.04 >> >> based host, >> >> > >> >> > Debian 7 + backports enabled. It's works fine with CS 4.4 (probably I >> >> will re-install with Ubuntu 14.04.1) >> >> > >> >> >> can you share what is your KVM host like, distro, libvirt/qemu >> version >> >> and kernel version? >> >> > >> >> > ipxe-qemu 1.0.0+git-20131111.c3d1e78-2.1~bpo70+1 >> >> > libvirt-bin 1.2.9-9~bpo70+1 >> >> > libvirt-clients 1.2.9-9~bpo70+1 >> >> > libvirt-daemon 1.2.9-9~bpo70+1 >> >> > libvirt-daemon-system 1.2.9-9~bpo70+1 >> >> > libvirt0 1.2.9-9~bpo70+1 >> >> > linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 3.2.68-1+deb7u1 >> >> > linux-image-amd64 3.2+46 >> >> > python-libvirt 1.2.1-2~bpo70+1 >> >> > qemu-kvm 1:2.1+dfsg-12~bpo70+1 >> >> > qemu-system-common 1:2.1+dfsg-12~bpo70+1 >> >> > qemu-system-x86 1:2.1+dfsg-12~bpo70+1 >> >> > qemu-utils 1:2.1+dfsg-12~bpo70+1 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Was the host Intel-VT or AMD-V enabled, or was it virtualized (KVM on >> >> KVM/Xen/VMWare)? >> >> > >> >> > Intel-VT >> >> > model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8700 @ 2.53GHz >> >> > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge >> mca >> >> cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall >> nx >> >> lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl aperfmperf pni >> dtes64 >> >> monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 xsave lahf_lm >> >> ida dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> What is the time and timezone on your host and if kvmclock was >> >> disable/enabled on the kvm host? >> >> > >> >> > Timezone : Africa/Casablanca >> >> > >> >> > kvm clock NO >> >> > cat /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/current_clocksource >> >> > hpet >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Lastly, can you also share if the SSVM gets stuck indefinitely or you >> >> did not wait that long and decided to reboot it? >> >> > >> >> > I decided to reboot after at least 10 minutes after the Cleaning >> message >> >> display on console (not reboot: don't work, virsh reset instance_name) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Regarding the upgrade path, it does not matter really. Since you >> >> register 4.5 template before upgrading the upgrade path would simply >> check >> >> if a systemvm template exists for currently used unique hypervisors (it >> >> does that by checking for current hosts with distinct hypervisors from >> >> cluster table). The checksums and URLs are in there for adding rows in >> the >> >> db in case you decide to add a new hypervisor host and it needs to >> donwload >> >> a suitable template for that new hypervisor. There are on-going >> discussion >> >> on improving the upgrade process so this issue may be addressed in that. >> >> > >> >> > Ok thanks for the explain. >> >> > Only "systemvm-kvm-4.5" in the template before the update is relevant. >> >> > >> >> > Milamber >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 25-May-2015, at 9:13 am, Milamber <milam...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Hello, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> There have 3 different versions of the SystemVM image for CloudStack >> >> 4.5.1 (for KVM, but I assumed that concerns other hypervisors) >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 1/ shapeblue.com version on Upgrade 4.5.1 from 4.4 page [1] >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 2/ apt-get.eu version on Installation Management Server Page [2] >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 3/ cloud.com version in com.cloud.upgrade.dao.Upgrade442to450 class >> >> [3] (Used for the upgrade process from 4.4.2-3 to 4.5.1) >> >> >>> >> >> >>> The checksums are different: >> >> >>> 1 - 5b6d9f276bc1faf50d2fe839c3c7dc5a >> >> systemvm64template-4.5-kvm.qcow2.bz2 >> >> >>> 2 - c3f5d60fbc4a6af7e85c94bb776f2778 >> >> systemvm64template-4.5-kvm.qcow2.bz2 >> >> >>> 3 - aa9f501fecd3de1daeb9e2f357f6f002 >> >> systemvm64template-4.5-kvm.qcow2.bz2 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> The date/size (of the Qcow2 inside) too: >> >> >>> 1 - -rw-r--r-- 1 milamber milamber 312669696 May 5 01:40 >> >> systemvm64template-4.5-kvm.qcow2 >> >> >>> 2 - -rw-r--r-- 1 milamber milamber 303972352 Mar 7 12:21 >> >> systemvm64template-4.5-kvm.qcow2 >> >> >>> 3 - -rw-r--r-- 1 milamber milamber 305387008 Sep 4 2014 >> >> systemvm64template-4.5-kvm.qcow2 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I'm not sure if that's relevant, but yesterday, my upgrade from >> 4.4.3 >> >> to 4.5.1 is failed when I would re-create a virtual router (using the >> >> cloud.com version). I have tried to recreate SSVM and CPVM without >> >> success too) >> >> >>> (Installation type: Adv Network without SG) >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I made a re-installation of my test platform with a fresh 4.5.1 >> >> version with shapeblue version (more recent), failed too on the start of >> >> SSVM (blocked on "Cleaning up temporary files..."), after 1 manual VM >> >> reset, the SSVM started, but the first VR have the same problem and the >> >> reset don't work like the SSVM. >> >> >>> (Installation type: Adv Network with SG) >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I made another re-installation of the test platform with a fresh >> 4.5.1 >> >> with apt-get.eu version. OK for SSVM but need to do 1 reset for the >> first >> >> VR (and the second VR too). >> >> >>> (Installation type: Adv Network without SG) >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> That is relevant? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> What is the good version? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> That is a bug for the freeze on "Cleaning up temporary files"? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Why the Systemvm checksum is hard-coded in the class? If I had make >> my >> >> upgrade with the shapeblue or apt-get.eu version I think an error will >> be >> >> occur on Upgrade process? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Milamber >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ==== >> >> >>> [1] >> >> >> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en/4.5.1/upgrade/upgrade-4.4.html#update-system-vm-templates >> >> >>> [2] >> >> >> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-installation/en/4.5/management-server/index.html#prepare-the-system-vm-template >> >> >>> [3] >> >> >> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/master/engine/schema/src/com/cloud/upgrade/dao/Upgrade442to450.java#L229 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Rohit Yadav >> >> >> Software Architect, ShapeBlue >> >> >> M. +91 88 262 30892 | rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com >> >> >> Blog: bhaisaab.org | Twitter: @_bhaisaab >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related >> >> services >> >> >> >> >> >> IaaS Cloud Design & Build< >> >> http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//> >> >> >> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework< >> http://shapeblue.com/csforge/ >> >> > >> >> >> CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/> >> >> >> CloudStack Software Engineering< >> >> http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/> >> >> >> CloudStack Infrastructure Support< >> >> http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/> >> >> >> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses< >> >> http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> >> >> >> >> >> >> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are >> >> intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. >> Any >> >> views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not >> >> necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. 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