I said that because, I dont know from which commit the template is built
from and am not sure if thats the one that is voted. Neither do I have
access to check the same or correct the template incase of an error. So, I
am not comfortable with putting a reference to that in the official
documentation of ACS (I am just putting my personal opinion).
If its donated for the community, I would prefer it to be a subdomain of
cloudstack.org. maybe packages.cloudstack.org (yes name does matter to me)
and preferably have some documentation about it and procedure to get access
to it or a list of who all has access.



~Rajani

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com>
wrote:

> Hi Ranji,
>
> I don't follow your logic - British Telecom have donated the infra
> specifically to host community's convenience binaries much as Wido does on
> apt-get.eu
> And Jenkins constantly builds the latest systemVM template for a full dot
> release and doesn't discriminate between minor dot releases
>
> Please could you clarify your objection.
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul Angus
> Cloud Architect
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> paul.an...@shapeblue.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rajani Karuturi [mailto:raj...@apache.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 5:28 AM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: SystemVM (kvm) : 3 different versions for the same CloudStack
> version (4.5.1)
>
> I dont think we should mention shapeblue.com/cloud.com templates in the
> docs. They may not really be from the point where RC is voted. I think it
> should be the apt-get.eu / jenkins.
>
> ~Rajani
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Milamber,
> >
> > In theory you should be able to use any of the systemvmtemplates and
> > also from jenkins.buildacloud.org, but the one I published on
> > packages.shapeblue.com is the latest and has the few additional
> > improvements, latest packages and security updates.
> >
> > I’ve tested this and it seems to have worked for me on Ubuntu 14.04
> > based host, can you share what is your KVM host like, distro,
> > libvirt/qemu version and kernel version? Was the host Intel-VT or
> > AMD-V enabled, or was it virtualized (KVM on KVM/Xen/VMWare)? What is
> > the time and timezone on your host and if kvmclock was disable/enabled
> on the kvm host?
> >
> > Lastly, can you also share if the SSVM gets stuck indefinitely or you
> > did not wait that long and decided to reboot it?
> >
> > Regarding the upgrade path, it does not matter really. Since you
> > register
> > 4.5 template before upgrading the upgrade path would simply check if a
> > systemvm template exists for currently used unique hypervisors (it
> > does that by checking for current hosts with distinct hypervisors from
> > cluster table). The checksums and URLs are in there for adding rows in
> > the db in case you decide to add a new hypervisor host and it needs to
> > donwload a suitable template for that new hypervisor. There are
> > on-going discussion on improving the upgrade process so this issue may
> be addressed in that.
> >
> > > On 25-May-2015, at 9:13 am, Milamber <milam...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > There have 3 different versions of the SystemVM image for CloudStack
> > 4.5.1 (for KVM, but I assumed that concerns other hypervisors)
> > >
> > > 1/ shapeblue.com version on Upgrade 4.5.1 from 4.4 page [1]
> > >
> > > 2/ apt-get.eu version on Installation Management Server Page [2]
> > >
> > > 3/ cloud.com version in com.cloud.upgrade.dao.Upgrade442to450 class
> > > [3]
> > (Used for the upgrade process from 4.4.2-3 to 4.5.1)
> > >
> > > The checksums are different:
> > > 1 - 5b6d9f276bc1faf50d2fe839c3c7dc5a
> > > systemvm64template-4.5-kvm.qcow2.bz2
> > > 2 - c3f5d60fbc4a6af7e85c94bb776f2778
> > > systemvm64template-4.5-kvm.qcow2.bz2
> > > 3 - aa9f501fecd3de1daeb9e2f357f6f002
> > > systemvm64template-4.5-kvm.qcow2.bz2
> > >
> > > The date/size (of the Qcow2 inside) too:
> > > 1 - -rw-r--r-- 1 milamber milamber 312669696 May    5 01:40
> > systemvm64template-4.5-kvm.qcow2
> > > 2 - -rw-r--r-- 1 milamber milamber 303972352 Mar   7 12:21
> > systemvm64template-4.5-kvm.qcow2
> > > 3 - -rw-r--r-- 1 milamber milamber 305387008 Sep  4  2014
> > systemvm64template-4.5-kvm.qcow2
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if that's relevant, but yesterday, my upgrade from
> > > 4.4.3 to
> > 4.5.1 is failed when I would re-create a virtual router (using the
> > cloud.com version). I have tried to recreate SSVM and CPVM without
> > success too)
> > > (Installation type: Adv Network without SG)
> > >
> > > I made a re-installation of my test platform with a fresh 4.5.1
> > > version
> > with shapeblue version (more recent), failed too on the start of SSVM
> > (blocked on "Cleaning up temporary files..."), after 1 manual VM
> > reset, the SSVM started, but the first VR have the same problem and
> > the reset don't work like the SSVM.
> > > (Installation type: Adv Network with SG)
> > >
> > > I made another re-installation of the test platform with a fresh
> > > 4.5.1
> > with apt-get.eu version. OK for SSVM but need to do 1 reset for the
> > first VR (and the second VR too).
> > > (Installation type: Adv Network without SG)
> > >
> > >
> > > That is relevant?
> > >
> > > What is the good version?
> > >
> > > That is a bug for the freeze on "Cleaning up temporary files"?
> > >
> > > Why the Systemvm checksum is hard-coded in the class? If I had make
> > > my
> > upgrade with the shapeblue or apt-get.eu version I think an error will
> > be occur on Upgrade process?
> > >
> > >
> > > Milamber
> > >
> > > ====
> > > [1]
> > http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en
> > /4.5.1/upgrade/upgrade-4.4.html#update-system-vm-templates
> > > [2]
> > http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-installation/en/
> > 4.5/management-server/index.html#prepare-the-system-vm-template
> > > [3]
> > https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/master/engine/schema/src/com
> > /cloud/upgrade/dao/Upgrade442to450.java#L229
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rohit Yadav
> > Software Architect, ShapeBlue
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