Hi Rohit,if this is by design, I think we really need to change it :) ASAP
Thx for confirmation

Dont want to hijack thread - can you point me to some VR template building
guide or something - where we could possibly alter VR template...or I guess
this is possibly on MGMT code side...?

On 7 May 2015 at 15:15, Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote:

> Hi Andrija,
>
> > On 07-May-2015, at 3:08 pm, Andrija Panic <andrija.pa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > While not voting (do I have reputation to do that ?)…
>
> You and anyone in the community are welcome to vote and discuss issues.
>
> > ...  we do have serious VPC bug, which I also encountered wth previous
> > releases also (4.3.x):
> >
> > Just created: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-8451
>
> The issue is by design and I imagine would haved existed in all 4.2+. But,
> since it does not introduce any regression or breaking feature/design I
> think we can try to address this as a design improvement in 4.5.2 or 4.6.0.
>
> Regards.
>
> > After you configure Port Forwarding or Static NAT on VPC, do "netstat" on
> > VM that is behind VPC, and you don't see real client remote IP, you see
> > Source NAT IP of the VPC VR !
> >
> > We isolated 1 problematic VR iptables rule - please check the issue...
> >
> > Lot of software behind VPC become uselsess, firewall,
> > fail2ban,SIP/Asterisk/web server logs etc.. - since all connections from
> > internet through VPC seems to come from VR...
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On 7 May 2015 at 14:57, Geoff Higginbottom <
> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> +1 with the following testing
> >>
> >> Upgrade of 4.3.1 and 4.4 2 systems, both Adv Zones running XenServer 6.2
> >> Hypervisors
> >> Manual Tests via UI included
> >>  Upgrade System VM as Root Admin
> >>  Restart Network with Clean Up as User to upgrade VR
> >>  Restart VPC as User to upgrade VPC VR
> >>  VM Lifecycle events (create, stop, start, destroy etc)
> >>  Create, Update, Destroy VPC ACLs
> >>  Deleting Domains, Accounts, Users, VMs, Networks, Volumes etc and
> >> confirming storage clean-up
> >>
> >> API Scripted tests included
> >>  Creating Domains, Accounts, Users, Networks, Egress Rules, Firewall and
> >> NAT Rules, VMs, VPCs, VPC ACLs
> >>
> >>
> >> Upgrade of a previous 4.5.1 RC build, Basic Zone with EIP/ELB, GSLB and
> >> AutoScaling, with mix of XenServer 6.2 and 6.5 Hypervisors.  Dual Zone,
> >> with multiple PODs and Clusters.
> >> Manual Tests included
> >>  Upgrade System VM as Root Admin
> >>  Upgrade VRs as Root Admin
> >>  Updating Security Groups
> >>  Adding / Removing Static NAT
> >>  Adding / Removing Load Balancing
> >>  Adding / Removing Global Server Load Balancing
> >>  Adding / Removing AutoScaling
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Geoff Higginbottom
> >>
> >> D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
> >>
> >> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Abhinandan Prateek [mailto:abhinandan.prat...@shapeblue.com]
> >> Sent: 07 May 2015 08:56
> >> To: CloudStack Dev
> >> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.5.1
> >>
> >> +1 with following testing:
> >>
> >> Manual Testing:
> >>
> >> Zone with a cluster of Xenserver 6.5
> >>  VM lifecycle, Recovering a destroyed VM, Reinstall VM
> >>  VM Migration
> >>  Affinity groups - anti affinity
> >>  VM consoles
> >>  VM and volume snapshots
> >>  Template from volume snapshot, Download Template, Vm from template
> >> created form snapshot, Volume creation from volume snapshot
> >>  Attach volume - throws an exception, preferably should give a proper
> >> error on UI:    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-8448
> >>  Resize volum, Download volume
> >>  Snapshot policies
> >>  Change password
> >>  2 Tier VPC creation, Change password for VPC VMs, Reachability of VMs
> in
> >> the same tier, VPC ACL
> >>
> >> Automated testing: Ran some 20 regression suites, found one issue:
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-8437
> >>
> >> None of the issues are a blocker.
> >>
> >> -abhi
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 06-May-2015, at 10:15 pm, Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I tested upgrading XS 6.2 from 4.4.2 to 4.5.1 to try to reproduce and
> >> test the issue Geoff reported.
> >>>
> >>> The issue Geoff found had to do with systemvmtemplate's requireshvm
> >> flag. When we register template for the next ACS version we want to
> >> upgrade, if done from UI would add requireshvm=true that sets the hvm
> flag
> >> to 1 (in the vm_instance table, as vms start). If the host is not HVM
> >> capable, which in case of Geoff was VirtualBox, systemvm will fail to
> >> start/deploy (due to no host found that is HVM).
> >>>
> >>> When we pre-seed systemvmtemplate on secondary storage the HVM tag is
> >> set to 0 (false), so it breaks the convention to set it to 1 when
> >> registering/upgrading systemvm template. The fix for this is to register
> >> the next sytemvm template (systemvm-xenserver-4.5) using something like
> >> cloudmonkey will hvm set to false for ACS 4.4.x or below. This UI issue
> has
> >> been fixed in ACS 4.5 so users can deselect the HVM option.
> >>>
> >>> I’ve asked Geoff to test and post his voting on a fresh environment,
> >> possibly using VMWare fusion (if doing on laptop) as VBox does not
> support
> >> vmx/amd-v.
> >>>
> >>> Hope this helps and hoping 4.5.1 will be solid.
> >>>
> >>>> On 06-May-2015, at 2:38 pm, Wilder Rodrigues <
> >> wrodrig...@schubergphilis.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for the heads-up, Geoff.
> >>>>
> >>>> I will start testing an upgrade scenario now.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Wilder
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 06 May 2015, at 14:28, Geoff Higginbottom <
> >> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For all those of you have voted +1 based on a clean install, if
> >>>>> possible please test upgrade scenarios including deploying new
> >>>>> Isolated networks and new VPCs as I have performed three upgrades
> >>>>> and all pass the initial upgrade, but then fail to add new VRs or
> >>>>> new SSVM/CPVMs post upgrade etc
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Geoff Higginbottom
> >>>>>
> >>>>> D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
> >>>>>
> >>>>> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com]
> >>>>> Sent: 06 May 2015 13:25
> >>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.5.1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> based on Wilder's testing and my own bringing up a 4.5.1 server in a
> >>>>> test env i will +1(binding)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Op wo 6 mei 2015 om 14:23 schreef Geoff Higginbottom <
> >>>>> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Sorry for confusing the voting thread, I was backing Eriks
> >>>>>> statements with a '+1' but was not voting for the release -
> >>>>>> highlights the problem of mixing the threads
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Geoff Higginbottom
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Geoff Higginbottom [mailto:geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com]
> >>>>>> Sent: 06 May 2015 10:59
> >>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >>>>>> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.5.1
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Geoff Higginbottom
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Erik Weber [mailto:terbol...@gmail.com]
> >>>>>> Sent: 06 May 2015 10:44
> >>>>>> To: dev
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.5.1
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Vadim Kimlaychuk <
> >>>>>> vadim.kimlayc...@elion.ee
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Geoff,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>     Thank you for explaination. Basically the idea behind that was
> >> to
> >>>>>>> have (for instance) database tier and web-app tier.   Web-apps-tier
> >>>>>> servers
> >>>>>>> have to communicate with databases, but databases are closed for
> >>>>>>> outside world.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> The easiest way is to have 2 NICs at web-tier VMs and route inside
> >>>>>> VM
> >>>>>>> without need to send all the requests to VPC router.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But you're also breaking the tiering. Your database server is now
> >>>>>> fully accessible from the internet (or wherever you're connected
> >>>>>> to) through the web servers, and not just the database.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The proper way, imho, is to have a firewall between (ie. the VR),
> >>>>>> and fix the scaling issues instead. That's what you do in the
> >>>>>> non-cloud world as well, you create two tiers and put a firewall
> >> between them.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
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> > Andrija Panić
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> Regards,
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