yes, you do :) Op vr 1 mei 2015 om 05:00 schreef Abhinandan Prateek < abhinandan.prat...@shapeblue.com>:
> Guys, > > Do I see a QACloud in works, something in line with devcloud but with a > bigger collection of Hypervisors + marvin ? > If we can bundle these Hypervisors and QA automation then effectively we > can have many more people join our QA effort. > > > On 29-Apr-2015, at 9:24 pm, Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi Remi, > > > > Thanks. Sure we can work together on this, I guess you would be running > KVM/XenServer on KVM. Ping me if you need help on running ESX 5.x on KVM as > it requires a patched qemu system binary (prebuilt debs here > http://people.apache.org/~bhaisaab/qemu). If these nested hosts are > managed by CloudStack itself instead of virsh or virt-viewer, then use ACS > 4.5 or master. > > > >> On 29-Apr-2015, at 5:21 pm, Remi Bergsma <rberg...@schubergphilis.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Rohit, > >> > >> Nice work! > >> > >> I agree we need an environment that does run on something else than the > local machine, as we need more horse power. We worked on something similar, > where we have a cluster of KVM controlled by CloudStack in our Employee > Cloud and spin large VMs running CentOS 7.1 (we use 32 or 64GB ram). In > this big VM we run KVM again and spin up all infrastructure, ranging from > hypervisors, SDN controllers, database hosts, storage appliances, etc. The > big benefit is that networking is easy, as it is all in one box. Also, > everybody uses the same prefixes. Using a L2 VPN we connect the > workstations to the dev/test environment. All VMs can be controlled using > virt-manager (like you also showed) and it is actually CloudStack running > inside CloudStack. Deploying this VM has been automated and we’re now > working on automating different scenario’s. They can also be used as > Jenkins build slaves, for example. It is work in progress. > >> > >> Long story short: Let's work together on this :-) > >> > >> Regards, > >> Remi > >> > >> > >>> On 28 Apr 2015, at 21:07, Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Ilya, > >>> > >>> In short - to run ESX and other hypervisors (Xen, KVM, OVM3, HyperV > etc) on KVM you need to; > >>> > >>> - use patched qemu (tested to work on both Ubuntu 14.04 and 15.04 x64, > I’m waiting for Fedora 22 to test it on F22 as well), you may install the > pre-built debs or build/install qemu from source using the patch from here: > people.apache.org/~bhaisaab/qemu > >>> - use ACS using latest 4.5 branch and deploy a basic zone (without SG) > to provision hypervisor hosts as user vms > >>> - in agent.properties (on your kvm host), enable > guest.cpu.features=vmx and guest.cpu.mode=host-passthrough > >>> - when deploying ESX 5.x on vm (or installing using an ISO) deploy > virtualmachine with details nicAdapter=vmxnet3, for other hypervisors > (including ESX 6.0) E1000, the default nic adapter, works > >>> > >>> IMO this is a better approach as it does not depend on ESX or VMWare > fusion that requires special hardware (vCenter/Windows etc or OSX/Apple > machine) and are difficult to automate. Working with KVM host, since is a > Linux machine, would be more familiar to sysadmins and certainly a pleasure > to scale and work with because one can avoid management tools (such as > XenCenter or vCenter). > >>> > >>> (I’m still working on the "CloudStack Developer Kit” {CDK} so it’s not > in a state to be released yet, will avoid publishing a faulty tool now. > Instead of the DevCloud approach which promotes everything on one machine, > the CDK I’m trying to build focuses on developer productivity, > reproducibility and scalability of a QA lab, it recommends at least one > companion hardware with a developer’s workstation/laptop which can be a > small-form-factor server like a mini PC or NUC with at least 16GB RAM and 4 > cores i7 with Intel VT. Hope to share it soon.) > >>> > >>>> On 28-Apr-2015, at 7:17 pm, ilya <ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Rohit > >>>> > >>>> Any headway on ESX 5.5? I've done this many times before using > cloudstack and esx, but i was using esx as parent hypervisor. > >>>> > >>>> The challenge for me was being able to automatically deploy and > configure the vSphere + ESXi env. I managed to get the whole flow working > with bash script, puppet, VMA and while it works its not pretty. The > challenge was the networking bit. > >>>> > >>>> Last but not least, consider using cloudstack to test cloudstack. > i.e. master env, would use cloudstack projects and spinup smaller envs with > KVM, Xen and VmWare bound to each project. > >>>> > >>>> Regards > >>>> ilya > >>>> > >>>> On 4/24/15 7:53 AM, Rohit Yadav wrote: > >>>>> Daan, > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 24-Apr-2015, at 3:53 pm, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Rohit, the issues you mention are not as painful if we release in a > >>>>>> two week schedule as the period of creating a fix to seeing it in a > >>>>>> release will be shorter. Some releases will be broken for some > people, > >>>>>> I don't think we can prevent this. The target we are aiming for is > to > >>>>>> big to cover it completely. > >>>>> I agree with you, but I think there are pros and cons to both > approaches and for this to work it needs to be able to walk first before it > can run. > >>>>> > >>>>> For this to work we need an automated QA system, to solve this Abhi > is working on it for past few weeks and will be adding more non-hardware > tests (simulator ones) to travis. In my free time, I’m trying to setup a > nested virtualized environment where we can test ACS against Xen, KVM and > VMware on top on KVM. So far, I’m able to run XenServer 6.2+6.5 and KVM on > top of KVM with vmx (intel-vt) enabled, and making some progress with > running ESX on KVM (I’m able to run ESX 6.0 on KVM now, but not ESX 5.x > which is something I’m exploring). I hope we'll have something working soon > that is fairly fast and easy to reproduce. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Your points are valid, though. > >>>>>> .1 a three person release team makes sense. I have been really happy > >>>>>> with the help I got from Pierre-Luc and I think David can do with > help > >>>>>> the coming time as well. > >>>>>> .2 Hopefully people won't need to test every release so extensively > >>>>>> anymore as the changes become smaller. (and my initial remark the > >>>>>> above applies as well) > >>>>> By having too many releases we’ll have to deal with too many upgrade > path issues and users will spread across different versions which will > create an issue for maintainers who are supporting users -- one solution > for this problem can be that we introduce a concept of LTS release that is > either maintained by the community (which can be difficult) or some > interested stakeholders, for users that would prefer upgrading everytime > there is a new CloudStack release. > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Rohit Yadav < > rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> I think we need to have a faster release management to speed up > process in general, and for that I propose that we have at least two > co-pilots for the release manager who would support them with things like > reviewing/merging patches, creating RC candidates etc whenever necessary. > Having only one person as a release manager can become a bottleneck for a > speedy release. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The other issue is getting people to test a (release) branch, fix > bugs and expect a review/result in 72 hours. This has usually failed if > people are busy and not getting enough time for this. As an example, I > think 4.5 is delayed because it lacked people actively testing it or fixing > issues, or when issues were found only around the RC testing period which > delayed RC voting by 1-2 weeks every time that happened. (I’ll post details > about where I think we are wrt 4.5 in another thread). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 17-Apr-2015, at 12:49 am, Pierre-Luc Dion <pd...@cloudops.com> > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Today during the CloudStackdays we did a round table about > Release > >>>>>>>> management targeting the next 4.6 releases. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Quick bullet point discussions: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ideas to change release planning > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> - Plugin contribution is complicated because often a new plugin > involve > >>>>>>>> change on the core: > >>>>>>>> - ex: storage plugin involve changes on Hypervisor code > >>>>>>>> - There is an idea of going on a 2 weeks release model which could > >>>>>>>> introduce issue the database schema. > >>>>>>>> - Database schema version should be different then the application > >>>>>>>> version. > >>>>>>>> - There is a will to enforce git workflow in 4.6 and trigger > simulator > >>>>>>>> job on PullRequest. > >>>>>>>> - Some people (I'm part of them) are concerned on our current way > of > >>>>>>>> supporting and back porting fixes to multiple release (4.3.x, > 4.4.x, > >>>>>>>> 4.5.x). But the current level of confidence against latest > release is low, > >>>>>>>> so that need to be improved. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> So, the main messages is that w'd like to improve the release > velocity, and > >>>>>>>> release branch stability. so we would like to propose few change > in the > >>>>>>>> way we would add code to the 4.6 branch as follow: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> - All new contribution to 4.6 would be thru Pull Request or merge > request, > >>>>>>>> which would trigger a simulator job, ideally only if that pass > the PR would > >>>>>>>> be accepted and automatically merged. At this time, I think we > pretty much > >>>>>>>> have everything in place to do that. At a first step we would use > >>>>>>>> simulator+marvin jobs then improve tests coverage from there. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Please comments :-) > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Rohit Yadav > >>>>>>> Software Architect, ShapeBlue > >>>>>>> M. +91 88 262 30892 | rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com > >>>>>>> Blog: bhaisaab.org | Twitter: @_bhaisaab > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related > services > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build< > http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//> > >>>>>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework< > http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> > >>>>>>> CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/ > > > >>>>>>> CloudStack Software Engineering< > http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/> > >>>>>>> CloudStack Infrastructure Support< > http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/> > >>>>>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses< > http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are > intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. 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ShapeBlue is > a registered trademark. > >> > > > > Regards, > > Rohit Yadav > > Software Architect, ShapeBlue > > M. +91 88 262 30892 | rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com > > Blog: bhaisaab.org | Twitter: @_bhaisaab > > > > > > > > Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related > services > > > > IaaS Cloud Design & Build< > http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//> > > CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> > > CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/> > > CloudStack Software Engineering< > http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/> > > CloudStack Infrastructure Support< > http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/> > > CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses< > http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> > > > > This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are > intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. 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