Paul,
This will be interesting:
"I'm also going to compile a list of people who vote "+1 - it works on my
laptop" and devise a Guinness related punishment for any of them that show
up at the CloudStack day in Dublin."

Why don't you start on list and see how this improves test quality.

I agree wiith David on the harm bugfixes. can do. The two week cycle is
ment as a moment for initializing a bf rc, not all of them have to make it
or be deemed necessary.

mobile dev with bilingual spelling checker used (read at your own risk)
Op 23 apr. 2015 00:50 schreef "David Nalley" <da...@gnsa.us>:

> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Marcus <shadow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > We just have to do it.  We just freeze master at some point, do all of
> > the release bugfixes, and when it is solid enough to pass a release
> > vote we branch a release from it, and then only allow merges to master
> > that have been tested in a merge branch, or something along those
> > lines. Things will slip through, because our testing isn't full
> > coverage, but we can begin to add to it.
> >
> > I've said it before, but I think we're also a bit stingy regarding
> > bugfix releases. Unless we cause a regression, there should be no need
> > for bugfix releases to go through multiple RCs. We get caught on bugs
> > that are already in the shipping version and make them blockers for
> > the other bug fixes, or a pet patch needs to slip in (which also only
> > matters because bugfix releases are so few and hard to release).
> >
>
> It's not just new features that cause problems though.
> We've had bug fixes that cause issues, sometimes worse than the one
> they solved. Every change is a threat to stability, so we'd like to
> have smaller bug fix releases too. There's an inherent cost in doing
> releases in their current form.
>
> --David
>

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