tl;dr I want to move devcloud4 into some community location, where
should I put it?

Hi all,

As previously discussed on the list awhile back I'm wanting to move
the devcloud4[1] stuff into more of a primary view and out of a public
repository that is just hosted on my personal github account. I have
questions around this....

1) For those who have tried devcloud4 did it work, were you happy with
the experience? Do you feel the dependencies on vagrant, chef,
virtualbox, berkshelf, etc. introduce a whole new learning curve that
is  too complex?

2) Assuming 1) gets positive responses, what would the most
appropriate way to bring in devcloud4? I was thinking of using /tools,
however when I began to explore /tools I found myself in a place of
mystery and wonder....

Originally I was thinking it may be acceptable to just replace
/tools/devcloud, however I've come to the conclusion this is a bad
idea given the great marvin configurations that are there and the pom
for deploying the devcloud db.

Then I began exploring.....

/tools/devcloud - The original devcloud as documented on rohits
blog.... http://bhaisaab.org/logs/devcloud/ (I think???)

/tools/appliance/definitions/devcloud - Not a clue what this is?
Appears to be some veewee definitions that build up a single box of
mysql, nfs, management server and xen? Is this used by anyone?

/tools/vagrant/devcloud - This was cool, it was recently added it is
like the devcloud4 basic setup except it doesn't use chef for mysql
and nfs configuration. Instead it uses a bash script, loved the
simplicity of this.

/tools/devcloud-kvm - This appears just to be marvin configuration
files and a sql file.... I think it might be neat if we were to update
this with something like Rohit's peppercorn (assuming my understanding
of them is correct they are attempting to achieve the same goal). I
know there's another duplicate effort of a KVM development environment
by Marcus: http://marcus.mlsorensen.com/cloudstack-extras/

Slightly off topic but.... I think it would be a good idea if we began
to maintain some sort of a "resources" list (more recommended
resources over official resources) for Cloudstack. There's lots of
really cool things out there (chef cookbook, ansible cookbook,
cloudmonkey, marvin, prebuilt templates by openvm.eu, cloudstack perl
client and probably many more....) that folks really wouldn't discover
unless they went searching.

[1] https://github.com/imduffy15/devcloud4
[2] https://github.com/bhaisaab/peppercorn

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