Pierre, 

Thanks for the reply and sharing your experience with the downgrading. 

I have indeed upgraded all of the system vms including ssvm, cpvm and virtual 
routers. the agents are also upgraded to version 4.4.2. 

Andrei 
----- Original Message -----

> From: "Pierre-Luc Dion" <pd...@cloudops.com>
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 February, 2015 2:09:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Downgrading recommendations from 4.4.2 to 4.3.2

> Andrei,

> I wouldn't recommend to downgrade, I did that in the past when we
> upgraded
> to 4.2.1 and I end up with even more issues. For the maintenance mode
> issue, can you verify that systemvm currently running (including VR)
> run as
> 4.4.2 ? I've saw behavior like this when upgrading to 4.4.x where
> CloudStack remain in Maintenance mode until all VR and system vm run
> to the
> proper ACS version. This is in /etc/cloudstack of VRs, cpvm and ssvm.
> if
> not at 4.4.2, try to install a new systemvm template and apply it to
> complete the upgrade of system VMs.

> Hope this help and you won't have to deal with a rollback, if so,
> please
> share your experience

> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Andrei Mikhailovsky
> <and...@arhont.com>
> wrote:

> > Daan,
> >
> > Do you mean that I should wait for the 4.5 branch to be out and try
> > an
> > upgrade hoping that the issues are fixed?
> >
> > Why do you think downgrading the database is a tricky business?
> > Let's say
> > I do the following:
> >
> > 1. Backup existing data base
> > 2. Remove all virtual routers
> > 3. remove the existing db (make a backup just in case).
> > 4. restore db from 4.3.2
> > 5. downgrade packages
> > 6. restart networking (hopefully it will recreate all virtual
> > routers)
> >
> > Or do you think there might be some issues in this process?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > From: "Daan Hoogland" <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>
> > > To: "dev" <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 4 February, 2015 12:34:08 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Downgrading recommendations from 4.4.2 to 4.3.2
> >
> > > Andrei,
> >
> > > downgrading the database is your big problem. You don't want to
> > > restore at this point. I would go for fix forward but that's
> > > having
> > > the ability to maintain my own.branch.
> >
> > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Andrei Mikhailovsky
> > > <and...@arhont.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello guys,
> > > >
> > > > I was hoping to get some suggestions on how to perform a
> > > > downgrade
> > > > from a live 4.4.2 environment back to 4.3.2. After performing
> > > > an
> > > > upgrade 4 days ago, I have discovered a bunch of problems with
> > > > 4.4.2 release, which makes it unusable for me. Problems like
> > > > CLOUDSTACK-8201, CLOUDSTACK-8210 and inability to create new
> > > > instances (yet to open a support ticket) are kind of big issues
> > > > for me!
> > > >
> > > > Prior to performing an upgrade I've backed up cloud and
> > > > cloud_usage
> > > > databases of version 4.3.2. I have previously downgraded ACS
> > > > several times without any issues. However, i've done the
> > > > downgrade
> > > > a few hours after performing an upgrade. This time, it's been
> > > > about 4 days since i've done the upgrade. Since then, I've
> > > > restarted many networks with clean up enabled, which resulted
> > > > in
> > > > creation of new virtual routers. I've also created a few test
> > > > vms,
> > > > templates and snapshots, but I am not actually too concerned
> > > > about
> > > > those.
> > > >
> > > > What is the best route for me to do a downgrade to 4.3.2? I am
> > > > planning to do it this weekend, however, I can do it sooner.
> > > > Just
> > > > need to make sure my ACS will not be even more broken.
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks
> > > >
> > > > Andrei
> > > >
> >
> > > --
> > > Daan
> >

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