Thanks for showing me this at the conference, Marco.

I like the idea of authenticated users, but I haven't understood the role of 
the XenServer plugin here. Only a pool admin can call Host.call_plugin, and 
pool admins have the same permissions as root, so the plugin can't convey any 
additional privileges and I don't see how it acts as a security layer. In 
general, I think we should move away from XenServer plugins (and Alex Huang 
already made some steps in this direction at the beginning of the year). The 
problem with plugins is that if XenServer changes, it may break the plugin, and 
we will have to scramble to fix it up when we notice.

You also mentioned xenstore: I would certainly caution against using that, 
because it's not supposed to be a public interface.

I guess my philosophy is that we should treat XenServer as a black box as much 
as possible, accessible only through the public API. (Of course, 
Host.call_plugin is an API call, but you know what I mean). Just because we 
know that dom0 is just a Linux box and we can do anything, doesn't mean that 
that's good architecture. XenCenter only uses the public API, for example. And 
if the public API doesn't provide something we really need, we should advocate 
to the upstream project to change it, or even submit a patch as XenServer is 
open source too.

-- 
Stephen Turner


-----Original Message-----
From: Rohit Yadav [mailto:rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com] 
Sent: 24 November 2014 08:44
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Propose] Improvements in XenServer + ACS integration 

Great idea and work Marco!

The gist of the proposal is that we can allow non-root users to add hosts and 
Marco successfully shows us how that is possible.

> On 23-Nov-2014, at 5:42 pm, Marco Sinhoreli <marco.sinhor...@shapeblue.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi community,
>
> I'm starting this discussion to share some ideas about XenServer integration 
> in ACS. Since XenServer has some nice features to do that like RBAC, host 
> plugin and XenStore, I demonstrate these to some community members at CCCEU14.
>
> Some references you can look in these links:
> https://blog.xenproject.org/2011/11/09/xcp-rbac-and-pam-authentication
> -in-the-xenapi/ https://wiki.xenserver.org/index.php?title=RBAC
> http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/XAPI_Host_Plugins
> http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/XenStore
>
> Actual status in ACS:
> During the XenServer setup, is possible to define a user to connect to the 
> xapi. In XenCenter, is possible to use a different user (no-root) using 
> external authentication like AD our PAM since the RBAC is configured properly 
> for this. In ACS it's not possible because many command need be called by 
> root using SSH. Another issue in this approach is about security: root 
> password is stored in DB and, in this approach we have a security compliance 
> issue. The root used used to call shell scripts in the XenServer host are all 
> hard-coded.
>
> What we can do?
> - Substitute host SSH connection to XAPI host plugins In my view, I 
> prefer use just one-way to connect to XenServer, in this case, changing host 
> SSH interactions to use exclusively XAPI. XAPI implements Host Plugins where 
> could be used to as a security layer to call commands into host.
>
> An example of host plugin:
> # cat xen_plugin_demo
> #!/usr/bin/python
>
> import XenAPIPlugin
> import subprocess
>
> def main(session, args):
>     try:
> p = subprocess.Popen(args["cmd"].split(" "), stdout=subprocess.PIPE,  
> stderr=subprocess.PIPE) out, err = p.communicate()
>         return out
>     except KeyError:
>         raise RuntimeError("No argument found with key.")
>
> if __name__ == "__main__":
>     XenAPIPlugin.dispatch({"main": main})
>
> And a client:
> $ cat call_plugin.py
> import XenAPI
> import sys
>
> session = 
> XenAPI.Session('https://secure-web.cisco.com/11oaIT0CArnYayDlQLndB8lR7
> lQ49gVxf2sio9aLIq1ZY2HcalTSEU-sxMWIGBtez69UyOkhjgoSY99b9P1H6x2vKiMGr79
> TzSNVYdOK6BkY9mgKMi7MzA4LLWJmuMWocGWgyzznE_PdtwBz0xBzr3DuVUqw_OGIWtIDN
> Gb6O0HA/https%3A%2F%2F192.168.56.12')
> session.login_with_password('cloud', 'password') host, = 
> session.xenapi.host.get_all()
>
> print
> print session.xenapi.host.call_plugin(host, 'xen_plugin_demo', 'main', 
> {'cmd' : " ".join(sys.argv[1:])})
>
> Calling:
> $ python call_plugin.py ls /root
>
> add_roles.sh
> support.tar.bz2
>
> - Setup RBAC to use a non-root to manage the XenServer host As a 
> suggestion, for this approach, need to have a user pre-seted in PAM or 
> configure XenServer AD. Follow what need be running in the XenServer shell to 
> setup the user, external auth, associate RBAC role to this user:
> adduser cloudstack
> password cloudstack
> xe pool-enable-external-auth auth-type=PAM config:user=cloudstack 
> service-name=CloudStack xe subject-add subject-name=cloudstack 
> subject_uuid=$(xe subject-list  | awk '/^uuid/{print $5}') 
> role_uuid=$(xe role-list  name=pool-admin params=uuid | awk 
> '/^uuid/{print $5}') xe subject-role-add uuid=${subject_uuid} 
> role-uuid=${role_uuid}
>
> We can in this case, maintain the scripts used today, needing change the way 
> to call them from ACS.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Marco Sinhoreli
> Consultant Manager
>
>
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