I like the way Stephen split it.
Here is my vote.
+1 on using github pull requests.
+1 on compulsory code reviews and PRs even for committers and CI build pass
before merging.
+1 on merges from 4.5 to master and no individual commits(or cherry-picks)
to the branches
+0 on RM for master and commits gated by him. I agree with Stephen that
code reviewer should be doing the push. But, I am ok with RM doing
it(assuming we have a volunteer ;) ).

+1 on any changes independently.


~Rajani

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Stephen Turner <stephen.tur...@citrix.com>
wrote:

> As I just said in the other thread -- but to repeat it here in the
> PROPOSAL thread --
>
> I am +1 on using github pull requests.
>
> I am +1 on all code changes being reviewed by a committer other than the
> author, as well as undergoing some automated CI testing, before the pull
> request is merged.
>
> I am +0 on only the master RM merging the pull request. I don't want the
> author to push the code, but I think the code reviewer could do this; in
> practice the RM will not be able to review everything again so is likely to
> rubber-stamp the results of the code review / automated testing. But I
> could live with the master RM doing it.
>
> I am +1 on moving ahead with any of these parts individually, rather than
> waiting for everything to be in place before doing anything.
>
> --
> Stephen Turner
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sebgoa [mailto:run...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 18 October 2014 10:00
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: [PROPOSAL] Move to github PR only during moratorium on commit
>
> After [1] I would like to officially bring up the following proposal.
>
> [Proposal]
> ----
> All commits come through github PR, *even* for committers. We declare a
> moratorium period (agreed suspension of activity) during which direct
> commit to master is forbidden.
> Only the master RM is allowed to merge PR in master (we define a master
> RM). If direct commit to master is done, master RM reverts without warning.
> Same for 4.5 and 4.4. branches.
> ----
>
> This is drastic and I am sure some folks will not like it, but here is my
> justification for such a measure:
>
> [Reasons]:
> ----
> Our commit and release processes have so far been based on the idea that
> development happens on master and that a release branch is cut from master
> (unstable development branch). Then a different set of community members
> harden the release branch, QA and bring it to GA level. During that time
> development keeps on going in master.
>
> This is an OK process if we have the luxury of having a QA team and can
> cope with split personality of being developers and release managers.
>
> My point of view is that as a community we cannot afford such a split
> brain organization and our experience overt the last year proves my point
> (delayed release date, broken builds, features merged without warning...)
>
> We can avoid this by cutting a release branch from a stable one (from the
> start), then as you (Daan) have mentioned several times, fix bugs in the
> release branch and merge them back in the stable source of the release (be
> it master).
>
> Feature development need to be done outside master, period. Not only for
> non-committers but also for committers. And merge request need to be
> called. This will help review and avoid surprises.
>
> New git workflow were proposed and shutdown, mostly calling for better CI
> to solve quality issues. CI will not solve our quality issues alone. We
> need to better police ourselves.
>
> To avoid long discussions, I propose this simple but drastic measure. We
> move all our commits to github PR until 4.5 is out, this stands for
> committers and non-committers, direct commits (especially to master) would
> be reverted immediately.
> ----
>
> Our development and release process is broken, we cannot continue like
> this, let's fix it.
>
> [1] http://markmail.org/thread/xeliefp3oleq3g54
>
> -sebastien
>

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