On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:23 AM, Leo Simons <lsim...@schubergphilis.com> wrote:
> On Aug 22, 2014, at 6:45 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
>>> This is, by-the-way, why active committers should want to become PMC 
>>> members, to get the binding votes aligned to who is doing the work. The 
>>> ratio PMC member / committer in this project scares me.
>>
>> I am curious why it scares you. It doesn't seem terribly out of the
>> norm.  CloudStack clearly isn't 1:1, or even 2:1 of some projects, but
>> we aren't at the high end of the spectrum either.
>>
>> For comparison here are some other Committer/PMC differences:
>> CloudStack   96 committers, 29 PMC members 3.31 CtP
>> Subversion    78 committers, 43 PMC members 1.81 CtP
>> Hadoop         96 committers, 51 PMC members 1.88 CtP
>> Struts             56 committers, 17 PMC members 5.06 CtP
>> Spamassassin  26 Committers, 7 PMC members, 3.71 CtP
>> OpenOffice     140 committers, 27 PMC members, 5.19 CtP
>> httpd                110 committers, 55 PMC members 2.00 CtP
>> xalan                54 committers, 7 PMC members, 7.71 CtP
>> WS                   223 committers, 41 PMC members 5.43 CtP
>> TomEE             28 committers, 8 PMC members, 3.50 CtP
>
> Ha, that’s a nice list. Thanks David!
>
> It was my perception things were way more skewed, I guess because we seem to 
> have no shortage of active committers but there seem to be a much more 
> limited amounts of votes coming through on, say, releases. Good to be set 
> straight.
>
> At some point jakarta was a few hundred committers and 7 PMC members, and 
> that mostly worked out fine, so “scared” would be way too strong a word 
> anyway.
>

Ha - well - Jakarta went the way of the attic (except for the projects
that became independent) so I am not sure that we want to emulate
Jakarta :)

--David

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