> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rohit Yadav [mailto:rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 3:59 PM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Adapting git workflow for release branches
> 
> 
> On 20-Aug-2014, at 10:33 pm, Edison Su <edison...@citrix.com> wrote:
> 
> > There are several proposals from Citrix:
> > http://markmail.org/thread/c4pded5i3r22keqw
> > http://markmail.org/thread/xoyjw2sduenlytwm
> 
> Ahem ahem, what Sebastien said. Edison, we have more expectations from
> PMC members :)
If you think I am not a good PMC members, you can start a vote to kick me out, 
if that's something you want.

> 
> Thanks to Citrix for donating CloudStack to Apache, donating infra, human
> resources, helping with events etc. No one disagrees, but the fact is Citrix
> does not "own" the community or Apache CloudStack or its contributors; or
> drive its development or releases. Doing this or trying to do so won't be good
> for an opensource project, its community, its adoption or its impact.
> 
> I raised such an issue among others in a recent thread and I'm still waiting 
> for
> a reply:
> http://markmail.org/message/t3gskzrsd3jmw2zx
> 
> Those who sent negative votes, few of them added other Citrix folks in cc
> which felt like lobbying/bullying, it was more painful to read -1 me too 
> emails
> with no relevant reasons from the cc'ed persons afterwards and all of them
> came allegedly came from Citrix's SC/US office (allegedly local effect?).
> 
> This way of thinking and working is not healthy for the project and its
> community. So kindly stop, please wear your Apache hat when you are on
> the ML as an individual.


I do acting as individual, you don't need teach me about it. We all both want 
to get Apache CloudStack on the
Right track. I think I do have valid argument points, I think we can have 
different opinion on how the thing will work.


> 
> > Citrix also donates real hardware for CI.
> > We don't lack of proposals to solve these issues, it's community has
> > different opinions On how to solve these issues, or don't solve these issues
> at all.
> > Going forward, we need to have consensus on we have to solve these
> > issues before we start another
> > release:http://markmail.org/thread/ofalvk4uhejtffpg
> 
> For starters can you start a fresh discussion thread with a suitable subject.
> 
> The way things works is that first you start a [DISCUSS] discussion thread if
> you don't know what needs to be done, but if you know what needs to be
> done you start a [PROPOSAL] thread. Next, once you've gathered concrete
> actionable items and a vibe that voting needs to be done, you start a [VOTE]
> thread. Finally, if it voting passes you go ahead and implement the actionable
> items.
I will, I already said in other threads. Thanks for the education.

> 
> Regards,
> Rohit Yadav
> Software Architect, ShapeBlue
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